agree with Duncan on this one (yes we sometimes do agree. )

If one car had had a few wee faults, then yes I could have accepted that, but 2 cars with 13 faults and 9 faults respectively (and we are not talking about the dodgy rear wiper), then it is fair to say from my experience that the quality is NOT there.. :(

also some of the changes in design, were done to cut costs... ie

the filler cap in plastic, rather than metal
the sun blinds which are just cr%p when there was nothing wrong with the originals
the changing of the fuel pumps to save money, only for them to have to replace thousands under warranty
the rear door on the wrong side of the clubman.

as for being wrong, I'm married, so that is a given, I am nearly always wrong in my house, but you do need to be less judgemental, or people will just think your arrogant. :)