If I can add - "most" of our members are law abiding citizens and stay fairly close to the speed limit at "most" times. Even the 3 MINI's that got "Motoring Awards" from the State Troopers were doing less then 20MPH over the speed limit. The one that was going over 100 was in between the two packs and running alone - we didn't have 30 MINI's running 100+ MPH up a very twisty mountain road..... ( I just mentioned it for the sake of the story - not trying to brag ) . We are not all maniacs , but we do like to "push it" a little when we can.