I was looking at getting the new mini bike rack, it's in the new accessories book (Linda, keep away!!!), it's rather nifty cause it lifts your bike onto the roof, and runour had it that you don't have to drill the car, but I can find out tomorrow if you want, cause I'm back at John Clarks to collect some toys!! (to cheer BabyB up, she's not getting 'sorted' for a few weeks now cause the JC body shop is scared of her!!:()