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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil - TXJ View Post
    Chris is looking to buy a model 3 Tesla despite hating the Tesla ‘fanboys’
    And with good reason - EVs will make a perfect daily, especially for something like a big barge. The ultimate in ICE refinement, a large V12, can't hold a candle in terms of NVH to something like a Tesla.

    But much like a barge, I just can't get excited about EVs. Respect, yes; but I don't think I will be getting up at 5am in the future to give the EV a good thrash. That'll be for the petrol-engined fun car instead


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    As most of you know I’m very “mechanically challenged” when it comes to cars but surely it would be beneficial if someone added solar panels to an EV to top up the batteries whilst parked up and also whilst being driven.
    The roof and bonnet on most cars have a large surface area so they are prime places to add some.
    I know that solar panels can now be made really thin and light that create a large amount of electrickery so would be perfect for a car.
    I know that they wouldn’t be powerful enough to keep the car completely charged up but every little would help.
    Just a thought...


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    Quote Originally Posted by CiderFex View Post
    As most of you know I’m very “mechanically challenged” when it comes to cars but surely it would be beneficial if someone added solar panels to an EV to top up the batteries whilst parked up and also whilst being driven.
    The roof and bonnet on most cars have a large surface area so they are prime places to add some.
    I know that solar panels can now be made really thin and light that create a large amount of electrickery so would be perfect for a car.
    I know that they wouldn’t be powerful enough to keep the car completely charged up but every little would help.
    Just a thought...


    Sent from Yorkshire wi an hint o’ sarcasm.
    I had also thought that, but read somewhere that they wouldn't generate anything like the power the car would need - especially with our lack of guaranteed sunshine. Then there's the weight implications as well, at height too


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  4. #34
    Found the science I was remembering (from 2017 so figures maybe slightly out):

    A typical EV has around 20kWhr of energy storage capability in its battery. (and getting bigger all the time) That means you'd need to feed it with a power of 20kW for a full hour to charge it (ignoring charging losses etc) from completely flat.

    in the UK, with a clean solar panel, angled perfectly towards the sun, on a cloudless sunny day there is a solar insolation of around 1 to 1.2kW per square meter of solar panel. However, solar panels are at best, around 30% efficient (most panels are actually a lot worse, <20% often). So for each square meter of panel, on the best day, you'd get 300 watts power output.

    Divide 20 by 0.3, and a square meter panel will therefore take 66 hours to charge your car from flat. And on a more typical overcast day, you can double that again!

    Ok, so lets take a more typical half charged EV, that needs just 10kWHr of electricity, and say we get 6 hours of significant sunlight a day, you'd need a miniumum of 11 square meters (perfect sunny day) to 26 square meters (cloudy day) to harvest that energy requirement!

    The biggest issue is that it's sunny during the day, when you're EV is probably parked at work.

    Solutions to this issue include Work places installing solar systems (Prodrive, the famous motorsport company has just done this on their new HQ in Banbury btw, so it might become more common) or install some sort of energy storage at home, like a s/h EV battery, which is charged during the day, and then empties itself into your car (and house) in the evening/overnight.


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    Thanks for that info Gordon.
    I just thought it’d be good as a “trickle charge” type affair and not for fully charging it up.


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  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by CiderFex View Post
    Thanks for that info Gordon.
    I just thought it’d be good as a “trickle charge” type affair and not for fully charging it up.


    Sent from Yorkshire wi an hint o’ sarcasm.
    Completely agree - I thought the same

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    After seeing the SE at the IAA I was extremity impressed with it. It’s certainty something we would consider and would do a full week back and forward to work no bother.
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    Looks like the SE has been to the Ring

    HERE
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINI William View Post
    Looks like the SE has been to the Ring
    This makes me far too happy.
    F56 GP with some JCW Pro goodies.

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    Interesting little read HERE
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