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    Look away !!! I actually think I like this! I live up a hill and the drive is up a slope All4 Goodness would be great! Mind you I'd not pay 28K price tag.






    Following hotly on the heels of the announcement of the new MINI Paceman, we’re delighted to confirm initial details of the new MINI John Cooper Works Paceman. This exciting new member of the MINI Paceman range completes the MINI John Cooper Works family, making it seven models strong. The car features the recently developed 1.6 litre twin-scroll turbocharged engine that made its debut in the MINI John Cooper Work Countryman. It produces 218hp and in conjunction with the standard ALL4 drivetrain propels the car from 0-62mph in just 6.9 seconds.



    As you’d expect, a high level of standard equipment is carried over from the MINI Paceman Cooper S ALL4, including DAB radio, basic Bluetooth function, rear park distance control, air conditioning, lowered sport suspension and four individual sport seats. Above this, the new MINI John Cooper Work Paceman includes 18" John Cooper Works Twin Spoke alloy wheels, John Cooper Works body styling and exhaust system, anthracite roof lining, and contrasting sport stripes are available as a no cost option. As now familiar on MINI John Cooper Works models, the MINI John Cooper Works Paceman is available with optional automatic transmission.

    The MINI John Cooper Works Paceman celebrates its world premiere at the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS) in Detroit in January 2013; its market launch will follow in March 2013. The MINI John Cooper Works Paceman’s driving characteristics and design ensure it will stand out from the crowd in city traffic, as well as being the car of choice when maximum driving fun over longer distances Instantaneous power delivery and an unquenchable appetite for revs define the engine under the bonnet of the MINI John Cooper Works Paceman.

    The MINI John Cooper Works Paceman draws its power from a 1,598 cc four-cylinder engine. The latest generation of the John Cooper Works turbocharged unit technical details with cutting BMW Group’s powertrain experts. Highlights include reinforced pistons, low-weight crankshafts, an aluminium cylinder block and bearing mounts, and further optimised with a petrol direct injection and variable valve control which optimises both the engine’s efficiency and its responsiveness. The twin turbocharger joins forces with a generously sized intercooler.



    The MINI John Cooper Works Paceman channels the extraordinary power produced by its front four wheels as standard. The ALL4 all developed for MINI uses an distribute drive seamlessly between the front and rear axles. This means power is always sent to the wheels where it can be most effectively into forward propulsion. In normal driving situations.

    ALL4 diverts a maximum 50 per cent of the engine’s power to the rear wheels, rising to as much as 100. This provides a traction which MINI is famed – whatever the weather and road conditions. The control electronics of the MINI ALL4 system are integrated directly into the DSC (Dynamic Stability Control) management unit, which gives ALL4 extremely short

    carry out proactive adjustments in the distribution of drive. The system uses the data collected by DSC to tweak the power split pre-emptively and to impressive effect corners, for example. And that agility combined with surefooted driving characteristics in customary MINI style.



    Another key player in giving the MINI John Cooper Works Paceman its sky-high levels of driving fun is chassis technology specially developed for the new model. The standard sports suspension has a dynamically optimised set up and stronger anti-roll bars, and is lowered by 10 millimetres. a central-arm rear axle, Electric Power Steering and an extremely high performance braking system make a potent team.

    18-inch light-alloy wheels in Twin Spoke Black with polished spoke fronts and black rim wells are standard on the MINI John Cooper Works Paceman. Among the items on the options list are exclusive 19-inch light design.

    The aerodynamic kit fitted as standard on the MINI John Cooper Works Paceman includes front and rear aprons and bespoke side skirts ensuring the airflow around the car is even more efficient. John Cooper Works logos on the radiator grille, tailgate and door sill strips as well as next to the side indicators provide additional confirmation of the car’s identity.

    Customers can choose from nine exterior paint finishes, including the Chili Red shade reserved for the John Cooper Works model. Chili Red is also available exclusively for the MINI John Cooper Works Paceman’s contrast roof.

    The rear compartment of the MINI John Cooper Works Paceman features a pair of individual seats in which the rear passengers can enjoy that unmistakable racing feeling in lounge-style surroundings. Sports stitching and John Cooper Works logo, 160 mph speedometer and rev counter, anthracite coloured roof liner and gearshift lever with red shift pattern lettering are all part of the standard equipment for the new extreme sports model, as are cloth sports seats in Diagonal Track. Standard Piano Black interior trim strips add the finishing touches to the racing Cooper Works Paceman along with exclusive Chili Red trim elements for the cockpit and doors and a red stripe for the black trim strips on the centre console.
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    i quit like that as well Stewart :) but like you the price tag puts me off !!!
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    The Paceman - JCW or not - looks fine, but I'm still struggling to see the point of it.

    In its various guises, it'll probably be more 'dynamically effective' than the equivalent Countryman (although in either case - even with 4WD - big wheels, stiff suspension and low-profiles aren't going to do you many favours in slippery/wintry conditions...). Aesthetically it's a bit better looking, but a lot of the practicality (eg more doors etc, which is where the Countryman makes its claim to fame) is lost. So I suppose if you want a big 4WD MINI Hatch, then it's worth a look.

    Personally "Big MINI-wise" (as opposed to little Ernie Wise), I'd go for a year-or-so old Countryman S All4 and take a trip to P-Torque for a remap... Then you'd get the JCW Oomph (and more), 4WD with most of the handling AND 5-door practicality. It's also be a bit of a sleeper. 'All 4' quite a bit less than the £28K+ of the JCW Paceman.

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    I get the idea of the Paceman from a marketing point of view and I agree with Andy, they cannot touch my car so I've decided just to accept what Mini are doing and live with it. What I don't get is the Paceman 5 door...surely that's just a Countryman no?

    It reminds me of something similar with VW in that why would you buy a 3-door Golf GTI when you can get the Scirocco? Yes some people will still want the Golf but there is a huge overlap in the market there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyP & Lenore View Post
    Sorry if that upsets Ewan or Malcolm but all these changes do nothing to your own car; it's still sitting there on your drive loosing money on a daily basis. A.
    OK, my car might well be 'losing money on a daily basis', but I tend to keep my cars for a few years because: A. I really enjoy them, get attached to them and like to 'tweak' them, and B. I can't (or don't want to) afford to keep changing cars every year or so - taking a big hit on initial depreciation. Trading in your fairly new car for the 'latest model' is Win-Win for MINI - they sell you a new car and get a top class trade-in, to which they add a few grand and sell to another customer. Kerr, and indeed, Chiiinng!

    2008 R56 COOPER S, Pepper White, Black Roof, 'John Cooper' Signature Side and Bonnet Stripes, JCW 'Stage 1' Tuning Kit, Forge Intercooler, Milltek Downpipe & Sports Cat, ALTA Induction, Chris Knox/DNA Remap, JCW/Brembo Brakes, Limited Slip Diff, JCW Suspension and Front Strut Brace, 17" Crown Spokes with Non-Runflat 205/45x17 Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres, JCW/Recaro leather Seats, JCW Sideskirts, Chili Pack, Front Spotlights. Still got my old Hendrix Badge blu-tacked to the dash!

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    Quote Originally Posted by weefossy View Post
    Let's not forget we were the first on MNS to have a convertible...... and the first to have Clubman.......so no, I've never had a problem with change. Also think the Coupe and the Roadster are great, but not for me at this point in time. Apart from being a fantastic drive, which many cars can provide, I love the Mini because of the retro look and the nostalgia. I don't get any of that from the Countryman, Paceman, Rocketman etc. I would rather have a totally different car.
    And although the R56 is a better "car" than the R53, the R53 was /is the best looking new Mini. As Paul said, we all thought the R56 was too fat!!
    All of course "in my opinion" and no offence meant to anyone who thinks otherwise. But as my old boss used to say "you are all entitled to your opinion, it's just some people have dumb opinions"..... lol
    I'm all for the R56 being a better car in many ways but very few who have owned both 1st & 2nd gen cars reckon the R50/53 can be touched as the better driver car.

    EVO & John say so too, therefore matter closed lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crombers View Post
    I'm all for the R56 being a better car in many ways but very few who have owned both 1st & 2nd gen cars reckon the R50/53 can be touched as the better driver car.

    EVO & John say so too, therefore matter closed lol
    For the millions who buy them, its not just about being a better driver's car. The people who buy them want an all round car. In this respect, the R56 is the better car and I hope the new model is better still.

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    Re the R50/53 - R56 comparison... I have to say when we first got our R56 five and a half years ago, we were so gutted we'd traded in our Hyper Blue supercharged Cooper S we went out and bought ourselves another one. Great car it was too. But I have to say the R56 IS a better quality of car - cold start diesel rattles aside - better made, better engine, better interior - even if not just as inspired.

    As our R56 settled in and we settled in with it, it became one of the best cars we've ever owned, and it's certainly the longest we've ever owned a car. Nearly 6 years now and we're only now seriously looking at punting it on.

    I do understand what Ewan and Malcolm are saying regarding the new models only out a few years after last new models, but like Ewan alluded to, it's the way of the world these days - phones, iPad's, TV's etc. There seems to be no stopping it.

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    Oh crap thats its of the list it starts at 29K

    Scheduled to make its public debut next month at the Detroit Motor Show, the 2013 MINI Paceman JCW will reach showrooms in UK in mid-March at a starting price of 29,535 GBP. In the US the market launch will also commence in March but no pricing details have been announced yet
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    That price really is a joke!

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