JCW anyone? will it help their sales I wonder
http://www.motoringfile.com/2011/12/...cw-countryman/
Quote from the "motoringfile' article:
"We’ve also learned through sources that that winged Countryman spotted recently outside of Prodrive’s UK offices was simply Team Principle Richard Burns private car and not anything meant for public consumption."
Surely this is Prodrive's 'David Richards' , as Richard Burns, one of GB's greatest Rally heroes, passed away in 2006... If they can't get THAT right, I wonder how accurate the rest of their info is? Very shoddy.
As for the Factory JCW Countryman... it's a niche within a niche within a niche. It'll be compromised over a 'standard' Countryman with stiff suspension and it won't be as good as the JCW Hatch because of the weight and height. It'll also cost a bucketload, which, when compared to something like a Skoda Yeti, (which is a very good drive by all accounts, and very practical with it), will make it look grossly overpriced. It'll look quite good though - like the one in Parks MINI in Hamilton - and will no doubt attract attention because of the excellent Prodrive WRC campaign, but don't be fooled into thinking it'll be a WRC for the road, because it won't - unless you throw a couple of hundred thousand £ at it!
2008 R56 COOPER S, Pepper White, Black Roof, 'John Cooper' Signature Side and Bonnet Stripes, JCW 'Stage 1' Tuning Kit, Forge Intercooler, Milltek Downpipe & Sports Cat, ALTA Induction, Chris Knox/DNA Remap, JCW/Brembo Brakes, Limited Slip Diff, JCW Suspension and Front Strut Brace, 17" Crown Spokes with Non-Runflat 205/45x17 Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres, JCW/Recaro leather Seats, JCW Sideskirts, Chili Pack, Front Spotlights. Still got my old Hendrix Badge blu-tacked to the dash!
Euan I posted something a while back about the countryman JCW after chatting with an insider (so to speak) who stated it will basically (appart from visual modifications) be a re-mapped version of the standard car with a slightly different suspension.
No surprises there then, Greig....
2008 R56 COOPER S, Pepper White, Black Roof, 'John Cooper' Signature Side and Bonnet Stripes, JCW 'Stage 1' Tuning Kit, Forge Intercooler, Milltek Downpipe & Sports Cat, ALTA Induction, Chris Knox/DNA Remap, JCW/Brembo Brakes, Limited Slip Diff, JCW Suspension and Front Strut Brace, 17" Crown Spokes with Non-Runflat 205/45x17 Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres, JCW/Recaro leather Seats, JCW Sideskirts, Chili Pack, Front Spotlights. Still got my old Hendrix Badge blu-tacked to the dash!
Was reading about the new Countryman JCW an expensive beastie but what an option to have if you really need the room.
By Jack Rix
December 2011
• Latest deal price: from £16,190 to £26,649
The John Cooper Works family is growing again, with the addition of the Countryman to its ranks. MINI has revealed a prototype of the hot four-wheel-drive crossover, which it claims is 85 per cent production ready, and allowed Auto Expressbehindthewheelfor an early first drive on wintry roads in the Austrian alps.
Despite splashes of MINI’s traditional yellow swirled camouflage, the JCW’s pumped up bodywork can be seen clearly. It shares the same stepped grille, with a narrow air intake underneath, as the Cooper S, as well as the two square intakes in the lower grille. Beneath that though the front lip spoiler is lower and more pronounced.
At the rear the deeper bumper wraps entirely around the twin tailpipes, while the thicker side skirts, hidden here by yellow tape, are colour matched to the bodywork. The suspension is 10mm lower than the Cooper S too, giving the car a more squat stance, closer to a traditional hatchback than a compact crossover.
MINI refused to talk about power or performance figures, so we’ll have to wait until the car makes its debut at the Geneva Show in March for official stats. But on the snowy test route we had a chance to stretch its legs.
The power delivery was impressive – not as manic as the JCW Coupe or Hatchback, but the swell of acceleration was thrilling nonetheless. Expect the power output to be on a par with the Hatchback – that means 211bhp from the 1.6-litre turbocharged engine, while the 0-62mph time will be slightly slower, at around seven seconds.
Sports suspension from the Cooper S, featuring stiffer anti-roll bars and firmer dampers, is carried over to the JCW, except with the 10mm drop mentioned earlier. With a layer of soft snow on the roads, and winter tyres fitted to the prototype it was difficult to make a definitive judgement on the ride – but it certainly felt firm. We’ve criticised the Countryman in the past for its unyielding suspension, but in an overtly sporty model like the JCW it’s an acceptable compromise. To haul off the increased speeds, the rear brake discs have grown too, from 280mm to 296mm.
There’s the same three-stage ESP system and Sport button you’ll find in lesser Countrymans. The latter weights up the steering, sharpens the throttle slightly and gives the exhaust note a raspier sound with flurries of pops and bangs when you back off the accelerator – a JCW hallmark. It’s the steering though that steals the show.
Heinz Krusche, BMW’s head of driving dynamics and our co-pilot for the drive, told us that this car’s development was easier than any of the other JCW models, because there wasn’t the problem of torque steer to try and contain. And right from the off it's obvious the steering has a fluidity and accuracy that existing JCWs simply can’t match, because torque is shared between two axles.
We also had a chance to try the MINI Coupe JCW on the exact same stretch of road, and while the car squirming around underneath us and the wheel wriggling in our hands was fun, it didn’t inspire the same confidence. As the Countryman JCW prototype blasted into the distance, the Coupe JCW was left trailing in its wake.
Price: £27,500 (est)
Engine: 1.6-litre four-cyl turbo
Transmission: Six-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power: 211bhp (est)
Torque: 260Nm
0-62mph: 7 seconds (est)
Top speed: 145mph (est)
Economy: 37mpg (est)
CO2: 175g/km (est)
Equipment: Leather upholstery, sat-nav, iPod connection, sports exhaust, multi-function steering wheel
On sale: Spring 2012
Last edited by Stewart; 29th December 2011 at 05:46 PM.
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