Second hand buying experience

Evening all! I’ve just put a deposit down on a JCW Paceman (the ultimate in marmite cars!?!?) and although excited by the prospect, I don’t feel we’ve ‘gained’ through our 2nd hand buying experience. We went in with no trade-in, paying in cash (well, bank transfer) so am I just a bit too old school where you feel like there should be some form of enticement involved, a wee deal, bargain, treat or even money off? Obviously we could have just walked away and not signed on the line for the car but I’m honestly fed up looking and this one ticked all the boxes except the paintwork, it’s going to have to go to a detailers once we get our hands on it.

Has anyone had any good experience with buying second hand cars or do you only get treated well when you buy new? (When I got my first mini new there were some nice wee accessories and bits and pieces provided as well as a full tank of fuel).

Anyway, still looking forward to picking it up![emoji16]

If the dealer cares at all about their customers they'll make a fuss over them regardless of what they've buying and how much they're spending.

If you're walking away somehow feeling that by buying a used car you've not been treated the same as buying a new one, then they've not done their job properly IMO

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When I bought my R59 JCW is was up for sale at £13,300. I told them that I wanted the black caps and stripes changing to Chilli Red before I bought it though.
After faffing about with his calculator the salesman said that it would cost an extra £750 to change the stripes and caps.
After a chat he was shocked when he thought that I still wanted to still pay the asking price.
I laughed and replied “no” and that I was only willing to pay £13K.
He said that there was no way he could spend £750 on it and still sell it for £300 less than the original asking price.
I told him that I would be paying in cash and that I didn’t need to buy the car but he did need to sell it.
After leaving me for nearly an hour he came back from the managers office and shook my hand and the deal was done.
I personally can’t complain about my experience of buying a 2nd hand from a MINI dealer. They only advice I can give is that you can’t let them think that you’re really excited about buying a car from them or that you need to buy it. If they know that you will walk away if they don’t agree a lower price it “encourages” them to be more sensible with the price.


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Did you ask for money off, something thrown in? If you’be test drove the car and turned round and said you’ll take it, I can’t see why they would give you money of thinking you where happy with the deal.

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Originally Posted by MINI William

Did you ask for money off, something thrown in? If you’be test drove the car and turned round and said you’ll take it, I can’t see why they would give you money of thinking you where happy with the deal.

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We were there for 3 hours before we agreed to take it so definitely not and of course we asked for some sort of deal! They argued the case that money could not be taken off (despite admitting they got the car at auction), we were going to get £50 discount on the paint coating as we aren’t taking it but that seemed pretty pointless.

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Originally Posted by CiderFex

They only advice I can give is that you can’t let them think that you’re really excited about buying a car from them or that you need to buy it. If they know that you will walk away if they don’t agree a lower price it “encourages” them to be more sensible with the price.


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Yeah we tried that too, even the manager came over and had a lengthy discussion about how there was next to no wiggle room for negotiation! Also quite a lengthy discussion about minis too that we’ve both had, past and present! [emoji38]

If your not happy with the deal you’ve gotten then pull out? There will be other JCW Paceman our there, if your stuck on a Paceman.

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Originally Posted by MINI William

If your not happy with the deal you’ve gotten then pull out? There will be other JCW Paceman our there, if your stuck on a Paceman.

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There are currently 4 for sale in Scotland which is the most there have been for over a year, only 332 in the country exist. We were going to look at one in Warrington but going by previous experience of condition, it’s shocking how few people out there actually look after their cars. This is the only one that has had the spec I’m after purely because it’s an ex demonstrator so that is why we’ve gone for it. I’m fed up waiting and looking only to keep finding issues. I need to accept the fact they’re a rare car and just go with the best I can find and accept the consequences!

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Originally Posted by Julz

Yeah we tried that too, even the manager came over and had a lengthy discussion about how there was next to no wiggle room for negotiation! Also quite a lengthy discussion about minis too that we’ve both had, past and present! [emoji38]

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The one I bought had been in their hands for 18 months so I knew that they wanted to get rid of it.
It helped that I called in at the Saturday 27th January so they’d have wanted an extra sale to boost that months figures.
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Originally Posted by CiderFex

The one I bought had been in their hands for 18 months so I knew that they wanted to get rid of it.
It helped that I called in at the Saturday 27th January so they’d have wanted an extra sale to boost that months figures.
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Yep, the opposite of us! This one only came on the market this week (checking online pretty much every day for a VERY long time!!) and going in on the 3rd of the month!

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Originally Posted by Julz

Yep, the opposite of us! This one only came on the market this week (checking online pretty much every day for a VERY long time!!) and going in on the 3rd of the month!

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Result.
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Originally Posted by Julz

There are currently 4 for sale in Scotland which is the most there have been for over a year, only 332 in the country exist. We were going to look at one in Warrington but going by previous experience of condition, it’s shocking how few people out there actually look after their cars. This is the only one that has had the spec I’m after purely because it’s an ex demonstrator so that is why we’ve gone for it. I’m fed up waiting and looking only to keep finding issues. I need to accept the fact they’re a rare car and just go with the best I can find and accept the consequences!

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Sadly you have to accept it or don’t buy it as it’s a second hand car. We would all love to buy a second hand car and it to have been someone’s car who loves it previous, but seldom the case. If your not happy you may need to look out of Scotland, there are currently 6 on Pistonheads for round the country.

What spec are you looking for Julz? Any must or don’t haves?

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Originally Posted by MINI William

Sadly you have to accept it or don’t buy it as it’s a second hand car. We would all love to buy a second hand car and it to have been someone’s car who loves it previous, but seldom the case. If your not happy you may need to look out of Scotland, there are currently 6 on Pistonheads for round the country.

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I know, that’s why we were lined up to go and see one in Warrington as posted above until this one appeared this week. I’ve been looking countrywide for nearly a year so it’s not a recent random thing. If I could buy a new Paceman then that would solve all my problems but sadly I don’t have a time machine!

It's not the one that was owned by Kirsty on here is it? I know they're about as common as R55 JCWS and hens teeth....

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Originally Posted by mikeswagon

It's not the one that was owned by Kirsty on here is it? I know they're about as common as R55 JCWS and hens teeth....

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Haha, no!! Kirsty and I have discussed Pacemans and she’s warned me off of her old one! [emoji23]

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Originally Posted by Julz

Haha, no!! Kirsty and I have discussed Pacemans and she’s warned me off of her old one! [emoji23]

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Just checking, would be a shame if you'd acquired that one...….

I can recommend an excellent detailer. Not sure where your based but Ultimate Shine Autos in Stirling are a first class outfit specialising in prestige and custom cars. Seen loads of minis there and their prices are good. Just ask for Trevor or Scott. Oh and don't forget to tell them who recommended them. Hope you enjoy your paceman :yes nod:

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Originally Posted by VRRab&Diane

I can recommend an excellent detailer. Not sure where your based but Ultimate Shine Autos in Stirling are a first class outfit specialising in prestige and custom cars. Seen loads of minis there and their prices are good. Just ask for Trevor or Scott. Oh and don't forget to tell them who recommended them. Hope you enjoy your paceman :yes nod:

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Thanks for the recommendation! There’s a top notch detailer in Perth that we’re going to hopefully pay a visit to!

As for enjoying the Paceman, so far so good, love the thing! [emoji16]

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Originally Posted by Julz

Thanks for the recommendation! There’s a top notch detailer in Perth that we’re going to hopefully pay a visit to!

As for enjoying the Paceman, so far so good, love the thing! [emoji16]

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There’s just nothing finer than spending ages looking fora car and then falling in love with it when you do eventually get it.
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To be fair though my last 5 cars were all decided upon, and then bought, within 4 days of me deciding on what I wanted.
I wonder what it’s like to be impulsive ?
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Sent from Yorkshire wi an hint o’ sarcasm.

Pleased your happy with the new car Julz

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Originally Posted by CiderFex

There’s just nothing finer than spending ages looking fora car and then falling in love with it when you do eventually get it.
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To be fair though my last 5 cars were all decided upon, and then bought, within 4 days of me deciding on what I wanted.
I wonder what it’s like to be impulsive ?
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Sent from Yorkshire wi an hint o’ sarcasm.

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[emoji38][emoji38] I’ve been looking for this car for a long time, every other one I’ve looked at had the wrong wheels (I know they can be bought but couldn’t be bothered with the hassle), or the wrong interior, or the wrong lights.... this one has everything I wanted!

So I now have the fun of a mini in a practical family size! She’s a thirsty beast though, worse mpg than my 2.0l RenaultSport, just as well these are nothing more than numbers! [emoji38][emoji38]

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Originally Posted by CiderFex

There’s just nothing finer than spending ages looking fora car and then falling in love with it when you do eventually get it.
[emoji41]
To be fair though my last 5 cars were all decided upon, and then bought, within 4 days of me deciding on what I wanted.
I wonder what it’s like to be impulsive ?
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Mini for me was a impulsive buy, went for a look, had a test drive, decided I wanted one but had to convince the boss. Next again day picked it up.

Davy

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Exactly, it was only while flicking through the computer that I realised what the fuel consumption was, a healthy appetite is surely a sign of a happy beast! [emoji16]

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...and a very unhappy bank account.



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...and a very unhappy bank account.



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I go by smiles per gallon! [emoji16]