What can I say!!!
Disgusting!!
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What can I say!!!
Disgusting!!
See I like the Rallying but after the start blah.... with this. I'd still go to see one all the same.
What did I miss?
Totaly agree. Should never have happened
It's a beautiful day :hand:
Aaaaaa right seen it now, hate when they pull over to let there team mate win even if it is there own idea....aye right as if he was not told!
It's a team sport & DC informs us that all the teams give out orders anyway :thumbs up:
Blatant team orders, both drivers should be disqualified
:moonie: Oi you, naff off. Dinna you be trying to spoil my day :smilewinkgrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dogfather
(Gotta feeling this will be looked into right enough :frown:)
Ferrari have already been fine £100k, which is a pittance, but the race result stands however they've been referred to the FIA which could see action taken later I guess.
Personally, I'm a little glad they didn't change the result as that was one of the things that ruined previous championships and it also means that Vettel didn't narrow the gap between him and Hamilton as much as he would have done if he'd won the race.
The interviews at the end said a lot. Alonso making out he overtook when massa made a mistake and massa well he said it all when asked about team orders.
I mean whether or not you agree with the rules they are there and Ferrari have deliberately broken them they really should be punished by striping them of the points.
Absolutely disgusting :ragin:
I noticed this thread but didn't read it before i could watch the delayed broadcast here in the USA, Alonso should be banned from racing and the Ferrari team should be thrown out.
I'm a long time Ferarri supporter but no longer want to be associated with them from a fan stand point.
A sad day for motorsport
shocking should be some kind of backlash for that !!!!!! they should be alowed to race not be told let your team mate thro !!!!!
The way I see it, is I agree with DC and Eddie that the rules are there in black and white NO TEAM ORDERS. But without question team orders take place. I believe had Felipe let Alonso close in on him and make it look like an overtake maybe a controlled 'duel' for a couple of corners, however he was so incredibly disgusted by the whole thing, I think he made it deliberately obvious that there were team orders in play.
I'm not really a huge Massa fan, nor Alonso for that matter, but I feel for Felipe that he has been robbed. You could see how awkward it was for Alonso and Felipe as they stood talking about it. My biggest hope, is that Alonso fails to finish the next two races or finishes way down the points, and we'll see Massa standing there grinning saying I told you so! It's still far too early for team orders IMO!
I'm not a gambler BUT if I was and I had a bet on the race result and lost because of team orders I would be mighty p!ssed off, this is no different to a boxer rigging a fight!!
I really don't like Ferrari, nor do I like being treated like a fool by a pr bod. Shocking decision making by Ferrari today. Alonso should hang his head in shame.
Is it Alonso's fault though is he not just obeying team orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by euan
MOTO GP is on telly now, no team orders..
Alonso made his point clearly on the radio, he wanted them to get massa out of the way. He doesn't like fast team mates, hurts his ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by GCA3N
It's like Ferrari have learned nothing though, the deepest days of f1 were blatant team orders, nearly all by Ferrari to let schumi win. Ruined it for me!
Ferrari are a disgrace to the sport and Alonso isn't as good as he thinks he is.
He was out-performed by Hamilton at Mclaren and cried foul, and today he was out-performed by Massa and cried foul, the difference being Mclaren stood up to the little prima donna.
Tottally Agree, 8 out of 10 fails in F1 contain elements of Alonso.Quote:
Alonso isn't as good as he thinks he is.
was gutting myself at the post race footage with Jake/DC and Jordan, Top Laugh
what a laugh you guys are giving me, so let me see what your all trying to say is ferrari cheated in sundays grand prix mmmm dont you all think that this goes on in every team in f1??????
So the big baby Alonso spat his dummy out of the PRAM again, so poor Massa who is leading the race has to give up his position for that idiot Alonso who thinks hes gods gift to F1... :frown:
That race was a total load of BS, Massa was winning that race on his own merits and was forced to have to settle for second place, NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE ELSE SAYS, that was team orders 100% without a doubt. They should have been disqualified from that race and probably been even banned for the next one or two races, to try and get it through their obviously thick heads that that sort of thing will just not be tolerated in F1 or any motorsport nowadays. I really feel sorry for Massa :sad:
And Ferrari only get a U$100k fine and were also referred to the WMSC and to appear on September 12, with regards to what happened in yesterdays race. Thats not going to do anything, that sort of money is the sort of money they'd lose down the back of the sofa and not even flinch about it so to speak!!
Ferrari cant win without cheating in some way or another, and it gets right on my t*ts
As a HUGE FAN of F1, I think Ferrari are going to ruin it again for everybody in F1, which is a shame and I think they should GTFO :ragin:
Of course we are not as naive as to think it doesn't go on, but, today's example was so obvious and that is my main gripe, Alonso simply wasn't good enough on the day and shouldn't have expected anyone to move over.Quote:
Originally Posted by minimad
Let's remember who pays the way for a lot of the races, us, the fans who turn up to pay at the gate and pay to see it on TV, that does not sit well with me
Of course it happens in other teams, mind you I can't think of any this season. but Ferrari make a habit of it. To do it so blatantly basically they're actually asking for action to be taken.Quote:
Originally Posted by minimad
Lets just hope both drivers are stripped on their points from the race.
F1 doesn't need Ferrari anymore.
zzzzzzz did someone mention F1? ;)
A good take on F1 HERE :p
oh what a great idea???LETS TAKE AWAY THE FILLET STEAK AND MAKE DO WITH THE MINCE!ferrari is f1 always has been always will beQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dogfather
Yeah and its about time that changed :yes nod: ferrari think they are all high and mighty and that everyone should bow down to them :moonie:, I think its bout time they got put in there place, F1 and motorsport DO NOT REVOLVE around them.Quote:
Originally Posted by minimad
Personally, I find fillet steak a bit bland, no flavour.Quote:
Originally Posted by minimad
As I've said not a big F1 Fan. But when the best driver and car on the day pulls in to let a driver that does not deserve first place win then what is the point.
Inferior driver wins and F1 is the looser.
So to reflect do people want Ferrari to win with a selected driver over the best driver and car.
ferrari are in there place at the very top,motorsport does revolve round them ask wee bernie lol!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by zimbo
yes but just add some RED sauce and youve got a winner lol!!FORZA FERRARIQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dogfather
You can take the boy out if Italy but you can't take Italy out of the boy !! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by minimad
you need to take your red coloured glasses of Tony, they are clouding your judgement and sense of fair play. :lol:
massa should go to a team that will let him "race" ;)
Quite a few papers are running the story that the Ferrari drivers will be stripped of their points and the victory awarded to Vettel.
FORZA FERRARI! Lol
cant see that happening to be honest!!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dogfather
Why not they broke the rules?
hehehehaha good one didnt realise we all had to support the one team on here.lol lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Craig
innocent untl proven guiltyQuote:
Originally Posted by The Dogfather
They've already been proven guilty by the stewards and have decided not to appeal.....
I’d not drop there points, but award the right points to the right driver. They might have done it wrong but they were worth the one-two result.
Thing is I bet they would be the first to throw a hissy fit if it was done to them.
He does however speak highly of you ............. :thumbs up:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dogfather