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Sort of like that but outside the saltire circle ... between that and the MINI wings
Or
What about the shape of a thistle with the saltire as the middle then in one leaf New, next MINI, Scotland and so on ...
Make the S of Scotland like the red S in Cooper S
I like the middle of the three thistle ones Greig ... Excellent ideas and graphics, how about making the word New be the head of the thistle rather than having it through the top ..
At 8000rpm no-one hears you scream !
The top version looks best, however I think the word NEW has to be in a contrasting colour to ensure it stands out.
Overall, the designs are very good, however careful consideration has to be made about the base colour, as once you start reducing the logo for merchandise, the individual text colours that appear clear on the computer screen may not be as distinctive on fabrics for example.
Any logo works best when it's quickly and easily identifiable as to what its supposed to represent, especially to people unfamiliar with the group, product etc.