Hopefully it has lots of personalisation options on how you can set it up. I would think that’s part of the point of a digital dash.
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Hopefully it has lots of personalisation options on how you can set it up. I would think that’s part of the point of a digital dash.
My Dad’s slightly old-tech beige Jaguar even has customisation on the dash so surely MINI can [emoji1696]
It definitely looks a bit “cobbled together” with the mix of analogue and digital and is nowhere near as good looking as a full blown BMW digital dash.
Personally I’ve always thought that a rev counter was one of the most important instruments in a fast road car and not something to just be added onto the side of other instruments.
It also looks the it could seriously do with some form of a hood to shade it from bright sunlight looking at the pic in that link !!!
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Does the new engine not rev as high as the older versions ?
I only ask due to fact that the number 8 is completely missing from the rev counter with it only having 7 as the highest number.
This would suggest that it’ll only rev to 6,500 rpm.
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What does the current JCW rev to? Most turbo engines are done and dusted by 6500 so that would seem normal to meQuote:
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D’oh, yeah, I forgot about that.Quote:
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It’s just looks more aesthetically pleasing to have an 8 on the dial as opposed to just a 7.
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Just watched the video, and is this the first car to have a fuel gauge the same size as the rev counter!?
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I think that the F cars are a very similar design.Quote:
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Edit: Well, the idea is the same.
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Must be the first GP I’ve actually disliked. I’d be looking at the new Clubman JCW thinking that’s a nice bit of kit over the GP that to me is just trying too hard. The display cluster just looks so flat and bland and doesn’t make you think I’m sitting in something a bit special. I’m sure it will have some nice touches only reserved for the GP. Sad they seem to have dropped the whole number thing. Not that I even owned one but I thought it was a nice wee touch if only a bit of fun. 3000 to be built with MINI upping the limited run by another 1000 from previous models must feel there is the demand. Six months later I expect to see a good few on the lot like the R series GP seemed to have done.
Wish they’d dropped the Camo Wrap for the Californian Sun as it will look so much better in its signature colour and who’s not seen this. Yes it may have more power etc but I still think the original will be regarded as the best simply because of the drama and noise it made. The old whine of the engine as if it wanted to suck the world in and spit it back out.
Am I the only one that’s not too excited about the GP3 ...
Having owned the GP1 when the GP2 was released I was excited to see how it would turn out compared with the original.
Even the GP2 was hyped up but at the time but I don’t think it failed to capture folks attention and have people wanting the car for what it was. Yes they missed a trick not keeping the same numbering ethos and then tried to rescue that, certainly in America with folk asking what number they could give the car.
I’ll admit that I had my name down for a GP3 but after seeing things develop bit by bit, and maybe what I thought was coming with the F series GP, it hasn’t excited me one bit and tbh I’ve lost interest in it. Looking at the bits that are being drip fed about what it will or won’t have I think they are diluting the whole excitement of the car. I don’t think the wheels suit the car and looking at the rear spoiler now they are trying way too hard. The first and second generation GP’s had a spoiler that was big enough to attract attention yet be subtle enough with it. I’m not sure this is the case with the GP3.
Having seen the photos of the speedo like others have said why have digital everything but a needle for the Rev counter. Correct me if I’m wrong but even the Astra GTE in its day had a full digital speedo.
Maybe when it comes out and it can be seen as a full package and in the flesh it might be different I’ll change my mind but until then I’m unconvinced that the GP3 is going to be the “current” ultimate MINI.
Sometimes less is more and I think that should have been the case from the outset with the GP1. I’m sure I’m not alone in saying all the extras (air con, electric windows, heated seats, etc) should have been removed or kept to a minimum for added weight loss. I think that the Mitsubishi Evo and Honda Integra were the only cars I can think of that attempted to go down this route ... did it cost them any buyers ? I don’t think so ...
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Had my name down too but have now cancelled. Have pre-ordered an electric Mini instead, which is the complete opposite.
Looks like the GP has broken cover before it’s official launch.
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That's atrocious!! Those arches and that front end [emoji2961]
The colour is nice (minus the red bits) but it's not a special colour, look at every other hot hatch (with the exception of a few I can't think of) but they're available in a wild colour which is part of owning such a car its meant to be wild and special this isn't.
I agree with Eddie regarding the arches. They are just ridiculous additions that cheapen the overall look of the car. I’d like to know just how expensive they’d be to replace when some muppet decides to snap a corner off one of them in a car park.
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I also still can not believe that it has no proper rear diffuser as well. The rear diffuser looked gorgeous on the GP2 and the back end of the GP3 just looks boring and “normal”.
I know that the 2 previous GP’s had slightly boring colours but I do agree that on a car that’s supposed to be a bit mental and track focussed should really stand out from the crowd.
For me the GP3 has become more and more disappointing as it’s progressed.
Each to their own though...
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The colour might really pop when clean, dry and shiny - there's some purple in it which I'm looking forward to seeing properly.
But agree with the looks - not nice, and the extensions look even worse even though we knew they were going to be fitted
I like the wheels and the black filler cap. That's about it. Expect to see a lot of negative press about those finger-shredding arches.
I'm not as disappointed by as I once was. And I'm not gunna lie I think the car look like a little weapon. But I do with the designers had got with a subtler way of widening the car.
To me the aero looks a lot more dtm than btcc. I like the fact the current btcc cars are all just exaggerated road cars they still look like an astra or a corolla. The dtm cars are balls to the wall aero porn and you look what car you are actually looking at the cars could be anything with a badge slapped on and that what nascar is for.
I dont think it's going to win any beauty contest but I'm sure its gunna go down the road like stink.
It seems odd that the gp was spotted in the uk on Friday and saturday with full yellow and black camo and then they've gone and left one out in a carpark.
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And I had a good walk around mini pant oxford on friday and I couldn't see the camo car anywhere
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Other numberplates look to be M which means Munchen auf Deutsch
Weird that the car is RHD.
Well I have to say that I love the colour and think it’s stunning!!! Although it’s grey it’s got hints of purple/blue and I am glad they stuck to the traditional GP colours. I think if they brought it out in vibrant colours it would cheapen it and it would just look like any typical hot hatch which I don’t think it does. Still not liking the arches but I am hoping they grow on me and agree with Ali hopefully they put more graphics on it.
You're right Laura it doesn't look like any typical hot hatch, it looks boring in comparison. MINI won't be able to give these away. As for cheapen it... I think the arches and the front end have accomplished this in my opinion.Quote:
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I’m in full agreement with Eddie on this one. They’ve not even given it the now traditional GP Chilli Red mirror caps either.
The more I see it, the more I honestly do think that it’s just a fashion accessory and is a blatant cash grab.
With the GP1 & 2 all of the pre-release talk was about how it would handle and how much people were looking forward to driving it. 90% of the ore-release talk about the GP3 is just about the looks.
Most people who have stumped up the deposit just seem to be bothered about owning one and not actually using it...
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I really want to like it, but I struggle, my first taste of the mini was the F56 JCW which felt like a special wee car indeed, I’ve never owned a GP but have always felt they were something very very special in the line up of that mk
This however looks like it’s driven through a cheaper version of Halfords and collected all the bolt on bits no other car would dare have ! I really don’t like the arch extensions, a poor attempt to add width to the car, proper wide arches would have looked soooo much better [emoji3525]
Maybe I’ll like one in the metal
I do quite like the colour and would love to see it polished up in a decent bit of sunshine
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I’ll admit I like it, I was never a fan of the arches on the concept or the test cars. I also see that a lot of people are saying they don’t like the car but loved the arches and wing on the concept which have pretty much been carried over to the final car.
I like that MINI have stuck to a fairly recognisable GP colour scheme, bar the mirror caps that is an easy fix.
Im eager to see the final specs of the car and think it could be quite interesting.
I like it more than I thought I would, wasn’t sure when I seen the concept pictures but kept an open mind, the great thing about mini is every car is slightly different based on each persons likes and dislikes so I’m sure there will be some variations on everyone’s. At 306bhp it’s a hot hatch with more power than a Megane RS and about the same as a Civic Type R
I won't say I hate it until I've seen it in person, but going from those photos it's not great in my opinion. It does look like a standard JCW with some glued on parts from alibaba. I actually prefer it with the camo wrap...
You're going to need to buy a lot of back to black trim gel to keep all those arches from fading!! [emoji85][emoji85] I thought trying to keep mine nice and black was tough, but oh boy that looks like a detailers nightmare!
To me it looks much better than I thought it would. I actually don’t mind the arches and think the colour combination works really well. I think the purple tinge to the paint will look amazing and quite unique in the sun.
Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.
Nice to finally see it without the camo wrap, and while I have reservations about the arches I do think it’s a good looking car and I suspect the paint might look really nice with the sun on it. I like that MINI have kept a few nods back to the previous incarnations but haven’t let that stop them from doing something a bit different.
I remember seeing the concept photos for the first time and being sure the final version would be nothing like it (in true concept style), but to see the final version has kept a lot of the same elements is really nice. Strange to see so many who liked the concept then don’t like this when it’s essentially a real world version of what MINI showed us.
A lot of owners have been asking for a 300hp, 3 door hatch MINI for a while now and finally they’ve listened, can’t wait for a ride in one.
I said I liked it as it was... it looks nothing like the concept, the concept was a proper stripped out track car, it also wasn't just a JCW bodykit with crap arches. The arches on the concept although not totally my cup of tea, fitted in better as they worked in conjunction with the front and rear bumpers and weren't a half arsed attempt.
This article says that most of the parts are standard JCW items with some having just a few small tweaks.
This comes from a bloke who owns a GP2 and actually had a good look around, and then drove, the GP3.
He makes a great point by saying that the Challenge is the much better of the two, as a drivers car, due to the adjustability of it.
I’d take the specifically designed tyres part of it with a pinch of salt though because that decision is always based on which tyre manufacturer offers the best deal at the time.
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Please can they keep camo wrap as a colour :thumbs up:
I think it's going to be a marmite car, my only complaint is the cut out where the fuel cap meets the arch, shame they could not have moved the fuel cap a bit higher.
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What MINI have achieved by leaking a few pics is nothing short of genius,like or loathe it ,it’s what every MINI club,group or other form of platform is talking about ,when was the last time that happened.
To the person in BMW/MIN ...I doth my cap .
I completely agree. As I’ve said on FB those pics were taken in a BMW/MINI compound so they haven’t been leaked by a random passerby. I just hope that MINI are reading the posts on various MINI FB groups because from what I can see well o’er 90% of people commenting are saying that they either hate it, or think it’s just a joke, and is nowhere near the car it needs to be for a best in class car.Quote:
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The GP3 was a huge opportunity to design and build a stunning car. After what they created with the Challenge they have gone backwards by miles in my opinion.
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I sort of see where you and the others are coming from Pete but I think it's unfair to call the car a joke. It's a 300bhp supermini with a diff and functional aero.Quote:
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Its gunna be an absolute weapon on a back road and its gunna be more than capable on track.
The challenge argument doesnt really stand imo. The challenge was a bare bone enthusiast drivers car that isn't and never had been what the gp is. The gp is meant to be the best mini you can buy.
The gp1 got a boost in power some nice recaros, off the shelf suspension, a cool spoiler and came originally on run flats if I'm not mistaken
The gp2 got a minor boost in power some nice recaros, terrible bilstien suspension that was too harsh, a cool spoiler and lasted 5 minutes, it did at least get decent tyres
The gp3 has got a considerable boost in power, nice recaros, suspension mini has guaranteed will last, functional aero, an lsd, bespoke tyres, a cool spoiler and all of the latest digital dash and infotainment screens.
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It also came with a true limited edition ethos, no parts specifically made for the GP1 were available for any other MINI. Even the colour was unique and was never made available on any other models. That cool spoiler does create 90kg of downforce so it wasn’t just for looks.Quote:
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So the gp3 is more of a gp than the gp2 then other than the seats what does this gp3 share with a normal jcwQuote:
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No-one is buying this for rational reasons - at road speeds the aero will make barely enough difference to feel the effects.
Pure numbers mean nothing for a car like this. It's about how it makes you feel.
This car will be bought because it appeals on an irrational, emotive basis. Sadly it doesn't appeal to me
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Whether it’s more of a GP than the GP2 will only be found out if MINI decide to sell the GP3 parts to the masses eventually. The suspension is pretty much stock apart from stiffer springs and dampers. Not having specific GP3 Seats is a huge mistake in my opinion.
It seems to be that MINI have finally realised that people do mod their cars and are leaving it up to the customers to truly make it into a proper track focussed car.
Re: my “it’s a joke” comment. Have you not read most of the derogatory comments on FB ?
Yeah, it’s very easy for those to be dismissed as jealously but I personally just do not think that they are.
I do personally think it is a joke but that’s my own opinion. Some like it and that’s their choice as well.
If the stunning Challenge could be made as only 54 units (I think) then it would be much easier, and cheaper, to make 3000 units that are truly special. Sadly that has not been done.
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I think you sum it up quite well here, Mark. I don’t think it’s fair to compare it to the Challenge as they’re two very different cars with two very different focuses.Quote:
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The Challenge did nothing for me as I don’t really care about setting up my own suspension etc. or having a bare bones car focussed for the track. The GP has a completely different aim and to me is hitting that perfectly due to the fact everyone is talking about it... you may hate it, but I’d hazard a guess that it will be one of the best MINIs out there to drive on the road. Which is where most people will drive it most of the time.
The upside of owning 1 would be that you dont have to see it most of the time. Everyone else has to look at it.Quote:
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Hahahaha jk Ali
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