And in my opinion it needs to be the fastest Mini in the range. With the new Clubman and CMan JCW having near 5-sec 0-60s, the GP3 is going to have to overcome some in-house challenges, especially if it is FWD.
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And in my opinion it needs to be the fastest Mini in the range. With the new Clubman and CMan JCW having near 5-sec 0-60s, the GP3 is going to have to overcome some in-house challenges, especially if it is FWD.
£48k for a Megane!? There's a whole heap of stuff I'd rather spend £50k on than that...
I hope the GP3 is everything that it should be, but it'll sell regardless. Anything Ltd Ed and folk will buy - take the WC50 for example, AFAIK mechanically it was a standard JCW. And quite a bit dearer as well - but Ltd Ed so sold
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Connaught green though [emoji7]Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon the fish
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Factory tours are stopped Wednesday and Thursday this week as they are building a handful of GP’s.
Also there was 2 F56 JCWs on display at MINI at Home one with Hankooks that Ali spotted at the Ring and one with brakes that match threes spotted running on the GP test cars
New testing video up CLICK
Sounds great too. More like an original Mini Cooper S.
Someone managed to get a pic of the gp3 dash with the official ring lap time
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What is the next fastest supermini. There arent that many small cars that have 230bhp+ did they ever realise an official time.for the f56 jcw
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More pictures and information about the car HERE
Official press release, nice wee video and photos towards the bottom https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...ooper-works-gp
Beginning to wonder if the side panels are actually for aero at all or are they there just so they could give the car a wider stance with the wider tyres and I presume wider wheels as well.
Looking at the spoiler it looks very flat there doesnt seem to be any curve to it so is it just a spoiler and not actually a wing.
Also from the some of the underneath shots the floor doesnt seem to be as flat as other minis or especially the gp2.
The fact the gp3 diffuser is just a balance as well. Make me wonder if all of the parts on the car are just rice
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The wing could aid with stability
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Not sure if it has been mentioned previously, but (the dealer who sold me my JCW says) the GP3 will be unveiled during the Goodwood festival.
I appreciate that the Ring time will be mentioned as this car's outstanding development achievement, nonetheless, both Megane RS and Civic T-R are both much faster anyway, so why care?
But, I do like that wing (then again, I like the Type R).
Goodwood video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXL1TSRhvPs
Not much of it on the track and doesn't reveal anything new as far as I can tell.
The more I see the less I like
TGE - I watched his clip a few days ago. I follow Tim (Schmee) Mr JWW and Sam from (seen through glass) for my Car porn oh and That mad Norwegian Guy Tesla Bjorn :thumbs up: But this Guy TGE with his now couple of millions worth of Cars I only watch when like he has access to something a bit special example his new GP3 he has in order. Petrol Ped has one on order too but at least he knows what he’s buying.
If the guy says “ Complete chaos“ one more time in his clips.:frown::frown:
I'm totally disillusioned by the gp now. It doesnt really seemed to have moved the mini game forward. And there is still no mention of an LSD
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Reading the review post on FB today about it I just can’t believe that there’s no adjustment on the suspension.
As the guy said the GP3 is £5K more than the Challenge was, albeit with 70bhp more, but the Challenge was obviously more useable on track days and not just a fashion accessory.
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I’m also still VERY surprised about those side “wings”.
If the powers that be in Europe will not allow new cars to have canards, due to them being a risk of cutting folks feet off in a accident, how the hell are they allowing huge leg slicers on the GP3 ?
Plus how are you suppose to reach the bodywork behind them properly to clean, polish and wax it ?
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Mark it does have a mechanical LSD as per the Clubman and Countryman with the 306bhp engineQuote:
Originally Posted by M600-RKJ
Maybe I was very naive in expecting the car to look similar to the concept, but I just can’t get excited about the looks of the GP3 as it has been shown at Goodwood.
Unless there is a final reveal and they have been sandbagging thus far, I think I’ll be getting my deposit back.
The only thing that will change will be the camo removalQuote:
Originally Posted by Archie
Yeah mini have all but confirmed that this is the final form of the gp. The final colour was also visible in the door shuts its looks like a dark blue slate metallic. I think its gunna be a nice colour. Not sure how well it will play with the red though
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The colour looks quite similar to high class grey. A deep grey with a blue tinthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f0b808bd55.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...daab54c6f7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b9a329c674.jpg
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Am I the only person that likes the Camo?? :p:p
Defo agree the interior does look a bit bland.
Davy
The interior in both the previous GPs has been a bit disappointing. I was hoping that MINI would have learned from this for the 3rd incarnation but sadly not.
Am I the only one who is mildly disappointed with the latest GP3? I like the wing, power increase and the fitted torsen diff, but that's about it. I feel like there's a bit of a drama missing, given, there's has been no driving reviews yet.
In my head I was hoping for something more like this:
https://youtu.be/ZZRMzOg_oEY
There is something very strange about the fact a road car has bizarre aero parts that a race car doesn't (the add-ons to the sides)
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I think it has been overhyped by Mini and from reading various social media pages People are disappointed with how it looks now, its not as hardcore as the concept but it still looks the business with that rear wing, agree with Ali about the Autobox I would have wanted a manual, but seems to be the way to go is Autobox nowadays.
Davy
The new m135i seems to have a lot of reviews coming out today. I found the one by carwow quite interesting, for a couple of reasons: 1. does the new GP3 get the same 306 hp engine? 2. 8 speed auto (by Aisin rather than the old ZF) presumably gets fitted to the GP3? I appreciate the mini will be FWD with much less weight, but the engine-gearbox gets quite mixed reviews.
https://youtu.be/oBI8iBOWwHQ
The car will not produce downforce so that big wing is just for show as I thought.
Good to see though that they dont seem.to be settling for 7.56
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Although I think they'll.have a hard job getting closer to the fk8. I dont think the chassis is long enough to give the stability the fk8 has through the flat out sections
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That’ll all depend on whether or not the aero bits are actually designed for the intended purpose or are just for show.Quote:
Originally Posted by M600-RKJ
At 120 and above you can actually feel the back end of a GP1 get more stable and planted the faster you go. I have only done it the once but at 140 and above it is THE most stable car that I’ve ever driven at that kind of speed.
...theoretically speaking of course.
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It says in the article they werent interested in sticking the car to the ground like gp1 and 2Quote:
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Why on earth wouldn’t they be interested if they already know how to do so ?Quote:
Originally Posted by M600-RKJ
That seems like a very lazy, and easy, way to design a performance car in the 21st Century.
As you all know my mechanical knowledge of cars is limited but even I know that aero is a very big part of getting higher performance from any design of car.
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I remember reading somewhere years ago that the GP1 rear spoiler created around 180kg of downforce at v-max. At this speed the right to left curve of the spoiler disappeared due to the spoiler ended up being dead flat with the pressure of the air resistance. This was the main reason that the spoiler was made from carbon fibre. It was one of the only materials available that would cope with the high stress levels but also had enough flexibility so that it would not snap with the high pressures involved.
The aero package on the GP1 was so specific that it would not reach v-max unless the car still had the four small covers fitted into the jacking points to level them off with the plastic undertray.
I’m sorry but I can’t find the links to the articles due to it being about 7 years ago that I originally looked into it.
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I've been going off the mini promo photos but also the photos people took while at goodwood.
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Another bit about the GP including the digital dash that I think is a bit disappointing in not being fully digital. HERE
Yeah, I feel that looks a bit ‘half-done’. I get the idea of wanting to keep an analogue rev counter because it’s ‘more sporty’ but it looks a little cheap in the photo. Hopefully it looks better in real life.Quote:
Originally Posted by MINI William