I haven't got the codec to view the videos, all I get is a couple of italians nattering!
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I haven't got the codec to view the videos, all I get is a couple of italians nattering!
yeah took me a while to find a machine that had it.
My machine has the video codec but no sound, guy next to me has the sound but no video codec , next one had both
When I get home tonight I'll try and convert them to something a little more "friendly".
Martin I'm soooooooooo up for doing this :D
What kind of 'reward' would you consider for a loan of your cable :question:
My son (madmaxxer) is in Aberdeen during the week if we can come to some agreement on the cable hire but your chipping party sound more fun :p:D:approve:
I am trying to find somewhere suitable for a chipping party - need somewhere with a bit of space, mains power and internet access and a phone to order Pizza and beer while we wait. Am thinking about using the workshop here at work one weekend, but currently the workshop is in use at all times.
Drop me a PM and we can discuss the use of the cable if you like or you can wait till I manage to sort something out for a chip party
Cheers Martin :D No mad rush to do it so I'll wait for the 'chip' party. Safety in numbers if you cannae get it to work :p:D:approve:
You all going to gang up on me if it fails????
Having driven a One before & after chipping I can say it is well worthwhile. The One I drove was chipped to 130 bhp :p (with rolling road printout to prove) and felt great but different to my Cooper due to the higher gearing - smoother, effortless power but some how less exciting.
The owner of One and myself tried a "performance testing exercise" ;) and found the acceleration 0 to 100mph of the his chipped One & my Cooper was identical - probably due to the lower gearing of the Cooper.
Sorry Martin 8) I didn't mean if you couldn't get it to work I meant me :p:D:approve:
:)Quote:
quote:Originally posted by Big Gordy
Sorry Martin 8) I didn't mean if you couldn't get it to work I meant me :p:D:approve:
The Italians have posted more vids - another quote from Mini2
"More Mini One videos, "save as" xvid codec required
2nd-3rd full throttle (look at the speed, over 150 kmh in few seconds! , flat road)
2nd to 3rd
2ndgear full thr
again 2nd gear f/t
Astonishing, don't you think so?
THANK YOU, FRANZ! "
Well seems like they are impressed ;)
You can download the codec from here
XVID Codec Homepage
hey
how do you install that codec? :mad:
Dunno, I cant download it here - firewall blocks it, will try it from home tonight and post instructions unless anyone else has succeded
hhmm,
its a bunch of files n folders, but no executables i can see . . .
its never easy! :dead:
:cool:
by the way martin?
still happy with the remap?
Yeah, sorry - the link is to the development code - I will find the binary for you - bare with me.
Yeah still happy with the remap - ordered your cable yet?
try here, like I say firewall wont let me download
http://www.koepi.org/xvid.shtml
no, not yet, im scared :(
i'd like to see it in action first, or at least have someone knowledgable help me!
cheers martin, that worked this time. . . . .
talk about an italian job!, its too hard to tell from a vid whethere thats fast or not, they sound pleased anyways :p not that i know any italian. . . .
gives me ideas tho, get someone to video a mini skelping out the back roads, that would be cool . . . . :approve:
Was this not you????? :)Quote:
quote:Originally posted by CooperTrooper
anyways, im definetely goin for this, cos i love tamperfering with anything . . .
:)
I admit its not necessarily the best way to tell how good the mod is - but as you say they certainly seem happy
ha ha, yeah that was me . . .
my pals a mechanic, he's sorta scared me off a wee bit, he reckons u shouldnt mess with this, but im gonna anyways
just got visions of my crying in the back garden witha mini with flashing lights / flames etc etc
u must have been crossin ur fingers urself, first time u started her up!
im still gonna do it tho', just not the usual right out the box in the car park stuff i do!
:clown:Thats exactly my feeling too CT:D I'd feel a lot happier surrounded by people who know a damb sight more than me about this downloading mallarky. If I did it murphys law would prevail you can be sure :p:D:approve:
OK I'll continue to investigate the chip party idea, I know there are few Aberdeenmini'ers who are interested in trying it.
Would you be prepared to come up to Abz?
Gordy,
I see you stay in falkirk, im up for breakin ur mini, if u break mine! :D
martin,
s'pose aberdeen isnt so far away, is there a lot of interest up there in the remap?
i notice from this forum, u should rename it the aberdeen mini forum!
aberdeen must be mini central!
:)
Gordy,
noticed your a draughtsman, me too! surely 2 smart draffys can figure out how to chip a wee car! :D
C/T might look a bit suspicious if they had to come out and re-programme a bunch of mini's all at the same time :p
I would make the effort for the chip party if it was in Aberdeen :D
Martin,
Havent got a reply back from MTH website re the rally car. Do you have an email address for Franz?
Cheers
Just the info one on the site. I am not sure if his english is 100%, if you are asking heaps of questions you might be best contacting ALEXN in the mini2 thread and see if he can ask the questions for you - i believe he speaks german
C/T I've got two broken scramblers in my garage :dead: I don't want to add the mini to the list :p:D:approve:
DO MTH do anything for the works s???
I need more power already....
A few people have asked Franz to look at the works S code, not sure what the results have been yet. Will let you know if I hear anything
Martin,
I reckon you've had the mod done for just over a week now?
How does it feel now you've had some more time to get used to it?
It's a bit silly to ask but, how has it affected your fuel economy?
I think I've almost talked the wife round to this when our MCS gets run in (due here in around 4 weeks) and I've planted the seed with a good mate who is also buying a new MCS and is expecting it early December.
I'm a little fuzzy on the whole ordering/registration process - Franzs' website hasn't helped me much either. Would we need to buy the cable with the box thingy or just a cable? Then Franz e-mails the modified software?
Sorry for all the Q's mate - I can't make head or tails of it
Cheers!
Scott
Mod still feels fantastic - I am just back from a long drive down and back to Manchester. Car feels fantastic, definitely much looser and more get up and go in 5th and 6h gear. Fuel consumption is also marginally better I reckon - used to have to refill the car about 100 miles short of my house - got to within 75 miles this time before low fuel light came on.
The cable comes with a "box thingy", this interfaces the RS232 from your PC to the ODBII interface of your car. What you need to decide is if you want a USB one or a serial port one - which depends on what pc you are going to use. My new shiny laptop has no serial ports so I got a USB one. You can get USB to serial port convertors from Maplin - but some people have reported problems using these with the Cartune software.
Once you have your cable -
Register on Franzs site - you can do that now if you want
Download the Cartune software from the members area
Follow the instructions on Mini2 - brief details here
Connect the cable from laptop to car
Download the ECU using the cartune software
Email to Franz
On its return reload it back to the ECU
At one stage you will need use your VIN number to register the software - this is where you will have to pay your one of fee to Franz.
Hope this helps
PM me if you any other questions.
Martin
S'cuse me for being a bit of killjoy here, but if it's possible to gain a 30BHP hike to 195BHP on an 'S' with a "simple" ECU upgrade (for £40.00!?!) and NOTHING else, then why are all those modded (eg 'Works'/'Hartge'/BBR) cars with ECU's, Uprated 'Charger Pulleys, Heads, Filters and Exhausts 'only' making around the 200-220BHP mark? Is there a reason for this? Longevity? Accurate verifiable power readings? If this 'MTH' prog. actually delivers, then there are going to be a lot of really pissed off Newminiscotland members out there who've gone to one of the above Tuners.....OR if they get a new programme from Franz if he can do one, will they see 250BHP?
I know the ONE's power can be upped to COOPER levels as the only difference is the programming, but this just seems too good to be true for the 'S'. If it is true, then make sure it doesn't go BANG, like all those Chip-tuned Cossies used to, as the tolerances must be fairly marginal. What long-term testing has the guy done? Is it a flash in the pan (or under your bonnet)?
I'd like to see an INDEPENDENT test on this - maybe as a club we could get 'Go-Mini' or another modding mag to run comparisons under controlled conditions. Call me cynical, but if all the other "Chip Only" mods are making 8-10BHP on an 'S', then this guy should get a Nobel Prize, and he's just put ALL the other tuners out of business. This would also mean that BMW had presumably electronically "Detuned" the 'S' unit as much as they had with the ONE. Which means that they KNOW that the JCW Works kit is a complete rip-off, which it must be if nearly 200BHP can be "unlocked" just like that with no catastophic after-effects.
However, my experience is that if something seems too good to be true, it usually is, but I stand to be corrected. Time will tell......
http://www.chiptuninguk.com/chiptuning/frames_mini.asp offer a remap of an S which is supposed to give 195 bhp from an S. This was tested in Go Mini this month and received favourable results - how much do they charge??? £500.
You pay your money, you takes your chance!
Just read the "Chip Tuning" article in "Go MINI". Hmmm. 195BHP seems to be a popular figure, eh? Obviously vast difference in price, though. £560 difference to be precise.... somebody's 'avin a laff.
If these upgrades were PROPERLY TESTED and VERIFIED in Go-MINI I'd be more convinced - maybe I'm just old fashioned.(They ran a simple back-to-back acceleration test against the stopwatch with a few 'S's way back at the start, but they don't seem to go in for 'proper' testing much). I still think they tend to be a bit biased in favour of the manufacturer of whatever's in the article rather than being purely objective - ie, they often seem to just accept what they're being told, and pass it on to the reader. OK, it felt "Noticably Stronger", but that's a subjective opinion from a short test drive. Why didn't they put a stopwatch on it and get some "before and after" in-gear times etc? 25BHP and 22Lb ft Torque should make a noticable difference to times, so why not do it? Also with the rather "linear" delivery of the Supercharged engine, things can be deceptive. Without this it's all just "Bench Racing".
If "Evo" Magazine ran one of their comprehensive tests on it, (like they did with all the modified COOPER/'S's a while back) I'd believe them, because they don't seem to mind who they piss off! I wonder what BBR, Hartge, BMW/JCW et al think about this new-found "miracle power"? They're either laughing out loud or bricking it. If I get time, I'm going to try and find out.
Right, just sent off this letter to "EVO" magazine wonder if it'll stir anything.........?
I've recently come across a couple of companies offering 195BHP/180+Lbft with ONLY an ECU Remap.
Various tuning companies (eg John Cooper Works/BMW, BBR, Hartge, AMD etc) offering 200 - 220BHP have been using: ECU Upgrade, Uprated 'Charger Pulley, Exhaust and sometimes a re-worked Cylinder Head. Prices vary for this work from around the £1,200 mark to almost £4,000 for the JCW kit (pricey - but which obviously replaces the Supercharger, and comes fully BMW - approved).
One of these ECU Re-Mappers is a company called “Chiptuning” (www.chiptuninguk.com) who offer 195BHP and182+Lbft for £590.00 fitted , but the other one I've heard of is a German outfit called “MTH Powerchip” working through the Internet. (www.mth-powerchip.de). You require a Laptop and appropriate cabling, but he'll (allegedly) provide a 195BHP Remap for - wait for it - £40.00!!!!
Now this raises a few questions. Call me cynical, but IF 195BHP is available with only an ECU Re-map, why are we paying more and fitting more complicated modifications for only a few BHP more? If you can liberate 25BHP and loads of Torque form the 'S' by Remapping, does this mean that BMW have electronically “detuned” the motor as they did with the MINI ONE/COOPER unit, then allowed owners to pay almost £4,000 for the ‘Works’ 200BHP?
I'm highly sceptical about “Miracle” power gains, but if this proves to be a true reliable increase, surely this knocks the MINI tuning world (a HUGE global business now) on its head. Why have none of the 'established' tuners brought out ECU Remaps to give this type of increase - surely they've investigated this thoroughly? Reliability issues, or the fact it can't be done... I mean it beggars belief if ‘S’ owners can access 5BHP less than the JCW for a stunning £3,860 LESS. There are Threads on www.mini2.com and www.newminiscotland.co.uk (I’m a member of this excellent club).
Evo ran an excellent comparison test with nearly every modified COOPER and 'S' a while back, which was both detailed and objective (as usual!). I'd love to see a properly figured Evo “Shoot Out” between say, the BBR or COOPER Works and a couple of these ECU Remap cars. Then we'd know for sure. What do you think? PLEASE investigate this! Miracle or Scam? I think we should be told.
Would be interested if they did do a shoot-out (someone in the MINI2 thread is trying to organise a dyno day of all the different mods to compare results) - but I stick by what I said , I am impressed with the re-map, cant vouch for the claimed 195 BHP as its never (and never will) be rolling roaded.
I am hoping to apply the mods to RedPointRallying's Cooper before his next rally. This should give us a good idea of how effective the mods are - from his rallying experience he has a good feel for the car. Unfortunately its a Cooper so we may not see so much of a difference - but will still be interesting.
If you look through the NAM threads and MINI2 threads I listed there are some dyno results posted but I dont hold too much by dyno results - would rather feel how the car operates myself and come to my own decision.
The tuners you mention (apart from the JCW which most people would agree is over priced, but does retain your warranty) in addition to the remap include a reduced pulley etc - and typically start about 220Bhp, so I dont agree that with a map on its own it would not be possible to reach 195BHP. Pulley figures are normally quoted as 20 to 25 BHP for a 17% reduction pulley - so where does the remainder of the uplift come from ??? The remap?
I am not here to sell or defend the mod to anyone - I just wanted to make sure that people were aware of the "options" in the spirit of the community :)