That was a deep post elfman!
I agree, I don't see the point of the paceman. Looks better than a countryman, but still not great.
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That was a deep post elfman!
I agree, I don't see the point of the paceman. Looks better than a countryman, but still not great.
I agree too, it does look a bit more stylish than a countryman, but it's not making any sense with the lets take the car that we made more practical and make it less practical malarky. And the vision I'm not sure looks great, but would obviously have to sit in one before judging that.
It is very evoque ish as others have all said - that's a car that I thought I liked when i saw pictures but I don't like at all now I've seen it 'in the wild'. looks squashed to me with inadequate windows!
Well said minime, I think the Evoque looks hideous. A "fashion" disaster.
Fine enough motor but I prefer the CM ;)
Family just got a brand new Nissan Juke and I have to honestly say I liked it. I think this would be a close match with its ALL4 but I have to emit at being a MINI snob/ purest that would rather MINI did not venture too far from the original styling.
I’ve come to the decision not to be to down beat anymore over new MINI’s as long as the Hatch is not mutilated to death for the sake of “futuristic styling” over Retro that I loved.
I really like the Juke, it is kinda funky lookin...
I am also a fan of the Skoda Yeti. A handsome car, but still function over form, unlike the Evoque!
Ohh dear....beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder.
I think the Juke is one of the ugliest cars ever to grace this planet and the Evoque a stunning looking machine. I'm sorry, but off-road an Evoque will thrash a Juke or a Yeti (I like the Yeti) The Evoque is a re-bodied Freelander after all.
I'm with you Gordy. Jude wanted a Juke instead of the MINI.... Eh no, it's like a wart !!
I've driven the Evoque on-road and off-road and it's absolutely superb. This country has been brain washed by the media and government that anything bigger than a micra is grotesque and vulgar and nobody should have one. Thank god we still have a democracy and can put 2 fingers up to that opinion.
I'll never be able to afford an Evoque but I'd gladly have one if I had the money as it is an everything car ;)
what was the visibility like Craig? I worry that the tiny high up rear window means that if I followed it in a mini they wouldn't even see that I was there.
Nonsense. The media loves the Evoque and the government are driven around in Range Rovers etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig
Vulgar, now there's a good word to describe the Evoque...
No problems at all ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MINIme:)
Whatever Ken ! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by KenL
Have you driven an Evoque ?
They come with a rear facing camera as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by MINIme:)
I'm a deep person Ken! :smilewinkgrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by KenL
Eh, no. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Craig
I'm sure it drives well if you like that sort of machine, It's the looks, and image, I don't like.
That's an expensive "extra" on them ... Hang off a couple of years and you'll get one at a good price like others have said this car is a "cult" car at the moment but once the fad has died down they'll be in the bargain bucket me thinks .. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Gordy
Great point Craig and I'm also with Gordy on this. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder and I'm glad it is, it would be a sad sad world if we all liked the same things. I was a big fan of the Evoque until I sat in one and realised the time it takes to get into the back seats with the electronic seat slider was just ridiculous. Then the man in the showroom kindly pointed me in the direction of the 4 door version and then it made perfect sense. If you want an 'Urban Off-roader' and have a need to go in and out the back for kids or whatever get the 5 door (Countryman, Freelander or Evoque 4 door). If you want an urban off-roader and have no need to constantly be going in and out of the back then get the 2 door (Paceman or Evoque Coupe).Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig
I'm also with Euan in that I am really not a fan of what direction Mini are going, but as long as they don't touch the hatch then I can live with whatever else they are doing.
But they have.......the R56 is a muckle big thing compared to the dainty wee R50/53......all IMO of course.....:moonie::pQuote:
Originally Posted by N16SHP
I'll see your :moonie: and raise you :moonie: :moonie: :moonie:Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Gordy
It's just an R53 with 'Love Handles'! :smilewinkgrin:
I 2nd this ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Gordy
Who ate all the pies..............the R56 ate all the pies :moonie:Quote:
Originally Posted by ELFMAN
Aye, the Power and Torque Pies! :smilewinkgrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Gordy
BTW, the R56 is actually slightly LIGHTER than the R53 - so if the R56 ate all the pies, the R53 must've eaten all the BURGERS.... and CHIPS! (BuuuuRRRRppp!) :blush:
From 'Motoringfile' a while back:
R56 MC: 2508lbs (EU Unladen Weight)
R56 MCS: 2651lbs (EU Unladen Weight)
R50 MC: 2530lbs (EU Unladen Weight)
R53 MCS: 2672lbs (EU Unladen Weight)
Aye....whatever....it still looks phat :moonie:
Hey, I'd be the first to admit that to look at, the R50/53's are still the best looking Mini's in the entire range, but for me i couldn't live with the interior quality of the R50/53's...instead I live the poor quality under the bonnet (chain tensioner, steering pump to name but a few)! On second thoughts, maybe I could of lived with the interior quality...Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Gordy
Don't get me wrong I still quite like them.....but sell my R50 and get an R56 (or whatever the new ONE equivalent is)....NO WAY MAN....!!!!
On a side note....my missus really likes the new ones interior compared to hers.
I like to think it's "Fuller-Bodied" Like a fine wine :smilewinkgrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Gordy
Joking aside, I think the R50/53 is better 'resolved' design-wise, always thought this and still do. It has slightly better proportions, and just looks 'right'. I've got used to the phat one though, and really like it too - especially mine... obviously! :thumbs up:
I but the R53 GP is lighter than both :lol: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ELFMAN
On the subject of design - the R50/53 was designed in 1995 - it's aged well for a 17 year old design...
Agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by stoney
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Agreed! I loved it in 2001 and I still love it in 2012. It's a 'classic' example of 'Retro-Modern' done properly, as it not only paid homage to the design cues of the Classic Mini, but also managed to capture some of the wee car's spirit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon the fish
I find the same thing with the "S" Type, in respect of "Retro-Modern". It still looks great after a lot of years. I also think the Evoque is great; nephew had one and it was a great all round motor, but it was never meant to be a Mini. If BMW want to get into that market rebrand it as an X1 or something. Don't start with a Mini, they have no DNA that is at all similar.