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Maybe I am heavy handed then. 'Cos we definitely only get 3 or 4 washes out of them before the black elasticated wrist tears off the mit. Once that happens, they just fall off when you put it in water. We wash them after each time too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vidal Buffoon
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Did have another thought today about yer wax on wax off scenario...
Why not get the car PC'd (if necessary)...then get the diamondbrite done that you are happy with?
That way you can just go play with the car;)
mark
Mark-san, you're starting to sound a lot like Miyagi.Quote:
Originally Posted by vintageb3
Naw, naw, naw, naw, naw..... No diamondbrite for this one. Doing this one the proper way, breaking sweat'n'all.;)
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Good man. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyP & Lenore
You will end up getting a much better finish that you will want to strip the diamond stuff off the other car and do it properly as well.
First time for everything :eek: :eek: :eek: :rolleyes: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyP & Lenore
Not a chance.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ianking
well...I thought you may get the movie quote;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyP & Lenore
mark
Ian, I think Zymol just seems too expensive for my first outing with waxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ianking
Fiona, (if you're around), did Chemical Guys 50/50 seem crub,y to you? Not sure I'm keen on "crumbly" at the price.
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Andy,
try Race Glaze Crem Perfection - it's a Natural Carnuba Wax that doesn't leave any white residue. :cool: It's great and on my shopping list.
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Craig, that's a wax - polish. So my limited knowledge tells me that means each time I use it, it will strip off the last coat I put on. So there's no point in multiple coats. Which isn't really what I'm looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig & Jude
Remind me again, though, what is the speed detailer you and MarkyC use once you've waxed your car, each time you wash it? Turtle Wax Speed Detailer right?:confused:
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nope, Nanotech Speed Wax, made by Turtle Wax. :D It's not so much a speed detailer, it's just and easy to use wax. It is normally used for a quick wax when we don't have time to do a proper wax (like Zymol..)
Marky uses Race Glaze quite a bit (most weeks). :cool:
Now We are no experts in this field.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyP & Lenore
As we all know, it's all to do with preparation, so what ever products you think are best for that.
I've used a fair few Waxes, I read about them and think ok will give that one a go.
I know fine well there is many waxes out there and everyone has their fav ones and reason as to why.
50/50 for me I have got to say
an easier wax to apply and buff that leaves IMO very good results you will find hard to beat and it does not crumble.
On the Zymol front I have got to say that not one of the Zymol Waxes has crumbled.
Allan has melted a few tubs of our Zymol waxes (that he has ran over with the car) and then pours it in to a Load and Lock sealed tub and they are kept in the fridge.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: along with all the other waxes that we favour.:o :o
p.s. If your looking for a wax that you can apply to your wet motor after you have washed it and before you dry it. That helps to keep the car looking good between polishing or indeed waxing.
Then try Duragloss Aquawax.:cool: It can be hard to find the time to wax the car as often as you would like and this is a very good quick product to help keep that new waxed look.
K. Can anyone else confirm if Race Glaze is a wax/polisher which removes the last coat of Race Glaze as you put the next coat on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig & Jude
Not arguing with Mr C's paint quality, super shiny and smooth, that's for sure.:cool:
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Presumably, this does the same as Craig suggested Nanotech Speed Wax from Turtle Wax, as he uses that to wax the car as the car is wet, just after washing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottieCoop
Was planning on using something like that after giving the car a wax with a good quality (sensibly priced) wax.
I've got some Race Glaze that I can give you at the next MiniMeet Andy. No point in spending money if I have one going spare.;)
not sure if Nanotech is the same as Wax it Wet.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyP & Lenore
Meguairs NXT speed wax you can use on a wet car going by the instructions on the Meguairs website.
Very kind of you Fi. But I won't avail you of it, if I'm not gonna use it. And if it is one of those waxes that waxes and polishes the last coat of wax off at the same time, I probably wont use it. However, if it is a wax that stays on each time you use it, to "layer up", I may well use it.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottieCoop
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Well if you have ever felt Markyc's.................Car that is;) I think it Layers.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyP & Lenore
I would agree Fi. But the Race Glaze web site sort of contradicts that.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottieCoop
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I personally dont like using the turtle wax stuff as a detailer type of product. I dont think it lubricates enough and for me personally I think it might upset my expensive Zymol wax.
As a detailing spray to remove dust, finger prints, drying aid I use Meguiars last touch. I buy it from 'Polished Bliss'. Im sure the last time I paid about £17 for 3.5L and it is diluted 50:50, thus giving 7L. Should last for ages. I also use it as a lubricant for when I am using my rotary.
I would recommend this product. I think VintageB3 uses it as well and also commented that it is good.
Andy check out www.polishedbliss.co.uk
If you are unsure about anything the folks there give excellent advice. Unfortunately they have just handed in their Zymol licence so you wont get Zymol from them anymore.
Fi, never had Zymol crumble on me, it was Petes53 that I had do that.
fi, if your getting rid of race glaze, I was getting some soon, so you could pass it my way.. :)
Andy, you are maybe getting a wee bit confused.
I use Turtle Wax "Wax it Wet" to give the car a quick coat of wax. This is applied panel by panel when the car is wet and toweled or chamoised off.
I also use Nanotech Speed Wax for a quick wax, but the car has to be dry (or I prefer it to be, but Marky has applied this to the car wet and he says it worked fine).
as for the race glaze being a polisher wax, not sure, but Marky swears by it. He doesn't come on here anymore as he has a new hobby...:eek: :rolleyes: :)
Craig: Race Glaze will be yours soon. well the next Mini Meet.:D
OK. About to purchase the following:
I know there will be split opinion on some of these products, and I understand one person may like one product but another finds another product works best for them, but I could keep looking into this for weeks and everyone still wouldn't agree with my choices.
What I really want is for someone to stop me in my tracks if I am ordering one product to use which is absolutely not compatible with another.
Chemical Guys "Maxi Suds II Shampoo" - £5.95 from CG
Chemical Guys "Pure Finishing Hand Glaze 16oz" - £9.95 from CG
Chemical Guys "The Gripper Applicator System" - £4.95 from CG
Chemical Guys "50/50 Connoisseur Paste Wax LTD edition" - £24.95 from CG
Chemical Guys "Super Soft Microfiber Applicator Pads 2PK" - £3.99 from Auto Perfection
50mm Wide 3M Masking tape - £3.45 from Auto Perfection.
Nanotech Speed Wax for keeping the wax finish topped-up. - Not a clue, need to find it.
The plan is to:
Shampoo the car.
Microfiber Dry the Car.
Apply a coat of Hand Glaze.
Apply a coat of 50/50.
Repeat coat of 50/50.
Keep topped up with the Turtle Wax Nanotech.
Lots of Chemical Guys products there, and they may not be the best, but they are sensibly priced and folk seem to speak highly of them, and I have to start somewhere.
Let me know what you think.
A.;)
Don't think you need the glaze at this point...only need this after a polish but Ian will keep you right. Glaze feeds the paint with oils.
Also...Ian says he doesn't put anything on his wax cause it attacks the wax (i.e. removes some of it). I looked at the top up waxes or detailing sprays as protector for the wax....but he may have a point. Ian will clarify.
I still like detailing spray though...
I haven't washed the car since i used the CG stuff (just blasted the salt off with a power washer)....but it does look as though the stuff for the black bits washes off....so Black Wow may be the stuff to go with. I have not given up on the CG stuff yet...as it may be OK after a wash...or couple of coats.
I will still use peanut oil cause its cheap and does an excellent job removing impurities from the plastic.
mark
I have used the maxi suds II shampoo and it is good. Works very well via a foam gun as well.
The only other product I have experience with is the 50:50 wax, My mate was using it for a while and with good results.
I would think it would be better to use a dedicated detailing spray in between waxes though after you wash as it wont interfere with your 50:50 wax. You could get Mequiars detailing spray for about £6-£7 from Car parts 4 U in Gala.
I'd give a shout for the Megs detailing spray between waxes - it's quick and gives great results.
Just read the title of this thread but cant be bothered reading through it all,
The difference is just the shelf it sits on gathering dust:rolleyes:
I'm sure BS will back me up on this.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :)
I've not washed my car since last March!
Oh my god. Please dont say things like that. It will give me sleepless nights.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAJ
I have to admit I might be really sad by saying this but I really enjoy cleaning my car. I dont have to do it every day or every other day, nothing OCD like that but usually on a Sat morning, if not every other week.
Just ordered my 3M backing plate and 3M Blue waffle gloss pad for my rotary from Brown Brothers Auto suppliers at Stenhouse in Edinburgh. Will have them by tonight.
Should work a treat with the 3M Ultra Fina-It Polish.
Hopefully I will get a shot of it tomorrow on my roof as there are a couple marks on it. Damn the black paintwork.
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Originally Posted by ianking
OH er matron, dirty bugger:o
So that's the orders placed.
From polishedbliss.com:
Poorboys Professional Polish
Blackfire wet diamond ivory carnuba paste wax
Meguiars microfibre applicator pads
Meguiars quick detailer
Menzerna Gel 7.5 wheel and tyre cleaner
From carwashnwax.com:
Gripper applicator system
Checmial Guys Maxi Suds II shampoo
3M Masking tape
Wheel Shmitt (for washing my alloys)
Some empty bottles and a chemical resistant spray head.
From elitecarcare.co.uk
1 bottle of Black Wow
Lenore's not especially happy as our credit card is now £134 heavier than it was 2 hours ago. She muttered something like "WTF!?! that's almost as much as ******* diamondbrite, for ****'s sake." But I'm sure she's like the results.
Now I just need a dry day and I'll send her off in one of the Diamondbrite cars and let me get on with it.
Looking forward to getting stuck in.
Many thanks to everyone who's contributed to the thread, except BS and Gaj, who should be banished from ever owning cars ever again.:rolleyes: :D ;)
Special thanks to Ian King, VintageB3 and Scottiecoop for invaluable advice during this adventure.:D :cool:
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Originally Posted by AndyP & Lenore
I got a thanks:D woo hoo:rolleyes:
well done Andyp you got there in the end.
Now that's the outside and the tyre taken care of but
what about the inside and the windows.
Just as important.:D
Maybe you need to start another thread for those bits to keep this one on topic.;) :D
Just giving the thread some balance :rolleyes: oops, off topic, sorry, erm, nice load of gear ya bought there mate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyP & Lenore
Yer first and last, enjoy while it lasts. Actually I just forgot to lump you in with the "balancing" dirty-car-and-proud-of-it brigade.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by john
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Aye.;) If only I had a clue what to do with it all.:rolleyes: :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bonnie Scotland
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What kind of dedicated car vacuum cleaner are you buying?
Only joking Lenore:D
mark
I have a HenryQuote:
Originally Posted by vintageb3
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ng82/henry.jpg
but I think Andy might be more suited to the new Hetty machine. :D
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ng82/hetty.jpg