The Old & New Mini SIde by Side [Archive]

monkimagic

11th October 2006, 09:25 PM

quote:Originally posted by Wul

YUK!! that back bumper on the S is horrible - with the big infill piece and massive reflector/ fog lights!!:dead::dead::dead::dead::dead::blackeye:

My god what is with those foglights ?

Scottie

11th October 2006, 09:34 PM

quote:Originally posted by monkimagic

quote:Originally posted by Wul

YUK!! that back bumper on the S is horrible - with the big infill piece and massive reflector/ fog lights!!:dead::dead::dead::dead::dead::blackeye:

My god what is with those foglights ?

they are a bit in your face will go nice with my mellow yellow maybe I get some red vipers to match;):p;)

james f

11th October 2006, 09:46 PM

new one looks horrid how could they do such a thing looks like the design team at fisher price playmobile and lego were called in

N12 JLK

11th October 2006, 11:45 PM

The waistline of the S compaired to the cooper is way higher!!

X30YES

12th October 2006, 12:25 AM

quote:Originally posted by N12 JLK

The waistline of the S compaired to the cooper is way higher!!
Overall it looks bigger , or is that just coz the photographer was standing off ctr...sure is a few inches higher

OBN

12th October 2006, 12:34 AM

It does look a big taller, and the wheels look like cartwheels. Needs some wider rubber on the new one

jayex

12th October 2006, 01:41 AM

midge

12th October 2006, 03:04 AM

I'm trying to like the new mini, I really am, but that back bumper looks kack!! Think I'll be keeping the one I've got for a while yet!

PACMAN

12th October 2006, 03:56 AM

the more photo's i see, the more glad i am of have the right one :approve:

X30YES

12th October 2006, 05:18 AM

Ok here they are side by side with the aero kit ,again I like it , from the pics and as others have stated ..."I'll see it in the Flesh first" before I decide to buy it or not ...or load the present JCW that I have with the " works "

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h124/ab2pcs/2006_1007chilli0009mellow.jpg

AndyP & Lenore

12th October 2006, 07:36 AM

Well, I like it. I like the standard cooper S bumper on the new MINI and I like the Aero kitted Yellow S too.

A:D

ELFMAN

12th October 2006, 04:32 PM

“Does its bum look big in this?”

Initially. I was all for giving the new car a fair crack, but the more I see and hear about it, the harder it is to like it. They have, literally, made a right *rse of our lovely car. I thought 'High Waisters' went out in the 70's. As I've said on other threads, gone are the MINI design/marketing petrolheads, replaced by some cuddly toy/activity centre designers from the Early Learning Centre. SACRILEGE!

The whole stance/proportion has lost it, looks as if their 'vertical hold' has gone - it looks too 'upright'. The wheels now look too small, so folks will fit massive ones to compensate and b*gg*r the handling. The whole back bumper with those silly reflectors just looks cheap and nasty. Bland, Bland, Bland. Who ARE these people? Give'em three years and it'll look like a big Micra! Sack 'em.... hang 'em!!!! Sorry.

Andy, I'd cut down on the mind-altering substances and stick to Werther's!!! You really should have gone to 'Specsavers'. If you trade your fab MINI in for that Tonka Toy, I may have to take drastic action...

Scottie

12th October 2006, 04:43 PM

Elfman you need to start watching LK today;) High waisters are coming back and will be this years in thing:p;)

Burple

12th October 2006, 05:47 PM

Got to agree with almost everyone here ;)
Yuk! They've broke it. I can't believe they've actually made the car look like one of those really cheap toy cars that are meant to look like Minis :(

The only saving grace so far has been the photos of the S with the Aero Kit.. And even then I'd feel cheated, cos I know the scoop serves absolutely no purpose at all :(:(

granted there are some nice touches.. I like most of the interior.. but no stereo to swap out?

I'll certainly be in no rush to trade in now. Haven't they heard of 'if it ain't broke. don't fix it'?

The last facelift was spot on, all the right things were changed (in my opinion).. but this time? Yuk.

Lets hope they change the looks again before it's time for me to be looking for a new car...:blackeye:

Gismo

12th October 2006, 05:49 PM

I'm so glad i got the last of the "old" type mini, far too many cheap looking alternatives

lightbody

12th October 2006, 08:53 PM

oh deary me... the lights are bad, but worse is the 'ass' - look above the drivers side tail light! Plus the whole rear end just looks like someone has inflated it with a giant footpump stuck up the exhausts...

Wul

12th October 2006, 09:17 PM

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h124/ab2pcs/2006_1007chilli0009mellow.jpg
Separated at birth:
http://www.ritzsite.net/RAI99/Fiat_Multipla_rear.jpg

Crombers

12th October 2006, 09:26 PM

Good un Wul :D

ELFMAN

13th October 2006, 12:31 AM

AAAHHHH! My people! My People! I thought I was just being my old curmudgeonly self (which I was), but I knew you all had TASTE.....well most of you.

This "Re-Design" is like putting comedy boobs on Cameron Diaz - why meddle with perfection? New MINI special edition, The “MINI PARTON” - too big in all the wrong places with lots of make up you don't need! But it DOES have a comfy seat.

Scottiecoop's Fashion Section: Re. High Waisters being "back in" - you'll no doubt be sporting Mullets, Bay City Rollers Tartan-edged shirts and 18-High Doc Martens at the next meet? Be still my heart......

Scottie

13th October 2006, 12:35 AM

quote:Originally posted by ELFMAN

AAAHHHH! My people! My People! I thought I was just being my old curmudgeonly self (which I was), but I knew you all had TASTE.....well most of you.

This "Re-Design" is like putting comedy boobs on Cameron Diaz - why meddle with perfection? New MINI special edition, The “MINI PARTON” - too big in all the wrong places with lots of make up you don't need! But it DOES have a comfy seat.

Scottiecoop's Fashion Section: Re. High Waisters being "back in" - you'll no doubt be sporting Mullets, Bay City Rollers Tartan-edged shirts and 18-High Doc Martens at the next meet? Be still my heart......

AH so your pretty clued up about fashion then as Tartan is also "IN" for this year.;):p:kiss:

I'm hoping this link will take you straight to the Tartan page.:p if not you will need to search

http://order.next.co.uk/page.asp?b=G42&p=62&o=1

midge

13th October 2006, 01:21 AM

The rear reg plate surround recess looks far too big for the plate, maybe you could get one of those rover 75 style plates that fill the whole area!

Crombers

13th October 2006, 03:31 AM

quote:Originally posted by midge

The rear reg plate surround recess looks far too big for the plate, maybe you could get one of those rover 75 style plates that fill the whole area!

Chr!st your right there mate :(

Crombers

13th October 2006, 03:35 AM

quote:Originally posted by AndyP & Lenore

Well, I like it. I like the standard cooper S bumper on the new MINI and I like the Aero kitted Yellow S too.

A:D

Your havin a laugh MrP , both look boggin IMHO. The Aerokit (rear) does'nt match the flippin car :(

Scottie

13th October 2006, 04:22 AM

Hey Angus do you have a real life photo of a R56 Cooper rear bum that you can merge in to the picture.:D

ELFMAN

13th October 2006, 04:22 PM

Don't want to get carried away here, as the new car will (probably) still be better than 90% of the 'opposition' (tried the new Clio 197 anyone?), but it's as if the aliens have replaced a beloved member of your family with someone who ALMOST looks and acts like them, but you know there's something wrong..... Maybe the “Mothership” Run was a bit more accurate than we thought.....

Can't wait to see your Tartan Lounge Seats Scottiecoop!!!!!!

X30YES

13th October 2006, 04:35 PM

quote:Originally posted by ScottieCoop

Hey Angus do you have a real life photo of a R56 Cooper rear bum that you can merge in to the picture.:D

Sure FI ....<isonthecase>

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h124/ab2pcs/4rears.jpg

X30YES

13th October 2006, 05:18 PM

I thought I'd get one ahead Fi , just to make sure ....(off to bed now and closing down till this evening )

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h124/ab2pcs/01-07.jpg

Burple

13th October 2006, 05:39 PM

You must have been tired last night matey..

Look at the numbers you've put on that last pic ;);):p:p

X30YES

13th October 2006, 05:41 PM

:I sure was am :p

ELFMAN

13th October 2006, 09:25 PM

I have to admit I'm quite surprised - The blue ONE (surely not) in Angus's collage ('Auto Bild' photo rear 3/4 view) looks a bit better with the Bullet alloys, and the back end looks a WHOLE LOT better than the dark 'S' below it. Nearly gets away with the higher waist too. Maybe the colour makes a big difference? Hmmm...

As for the yellow 'S' bodykitted back end... “Porsche Cayenne's R Us”? Horrible. Looks like a fat, flattened, jaundiced Cyberman.

Be a laugh if the ONE looks much better than the (rather overblown - even tho' it isn't anymore) 'S', eh? There's a quandry for fast MINI buyers! Overall, I'm still not convinced. Ta Angus for the comparison shots. Very interesting. But try to just have a couple of pints (hic!) before you whack on the dates!

X30YES

14th October 2006, 01:05 AM

"But try to just have a couple of pints (hic!) before you whack on the dates!"
Pints of Tea Euan ......Nightshift helping to produce lots of V Power ...:(:p;)

ELFMAN

15th October 2006, 04:23 AM

That's 'T' for 'Tennents' Angus!!!! I know, I know, I CAN'T HOLD MY TEA EITHER!

AndyP & Lenore

15th October 2006, 05:57 AM

quote:Originally posted by ELFMAN

Andy, I'd cut down on the mind-altering substances and stick to Werther's!!! You really should have gone to 'Specsavers'. If you trade your fab MINI in for that Tonka Toy, I may have to take drastic action...

Elfman, there's no danger of a trade-in just now. Totally skint. But as soon as our circumstances change, we'll be straight into a dealer.

Sorry to p!ss on everyone's parade, but I like the look of the new Mini. Granted the Laser/Lightning blue cooper on this thread (http://www.newminiscotland.co.uk/snitzforums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9473) looks awful - looks like a cross between bad tooth decay and some Amanda Holden style collagen-gone-wrong surgery.

Otherwise, love the looks - the JCW aero kits, the bonnet - even with the useless scoop and it's ass. Maybe it does look big in what it comes in. So what though, stick an aero kit on and watch those pounds fall off. :approve: Out yer wallet too mind you.:mad: As for the interior, really need to see in in the flesh, but from the pics I've seen so far.....:approve::approve::approve::approve:

A.:D

X30YES

15th October 2006, 04:14 PM

http://www.mini2.com/galleries/data/500/thumbs/MINI_WORKS.jpg (http://www.mini2.com/galleries/data/500/MINI_WORKS.jpg) http://www.mini2.com/galleries/data/500/thumbs/MINI_WORKS_2.jpg (http://www.mini2.com/galleries/data/500/MINI_WORKS_2.jpg) ........JCW might look like this !!!!

X30YES

16th October 2006, 04:04 PM

lightening blue (http://www.kaesminiclub.com/photopost1/data/523/R56spa1.jpg)and something

Black (http://www.kaesminiclub.com/photopost1/data/523/R56spa7.jpg)and Dark Silver (http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-exterior/128033-lightning-blue-photos-3.html)

ELFMAN

17th October 2006, 12:30 AM

Andy I quote - “Sorry to piss on everyone's parade....” remind me to bring a brolly on the next run.....

“stick an aero kit on watch those pounds fall off...” maybe we could just make everything else in the world BIGGER and it would look smaller...still if you drive a 4x4 in real life..... Sorry Andy, couldn't resist!

I know there are many reasons (“Safety” Laws, more economic Manufacturing process etc) for the new shape, but I still reckon the Glass/Body area proportion is comparitively “uncomfortable”. And the headlights now look massive. Caused perhaps by the fact that the lights are now fixed to the body and not the bonnet, causing the chrome bonnet apertures to be bigger than the original lights? No excuses for the cack rear Bumper though.

“Evo” magazine are running a full test on the new 'S' in their next issue (out @ end of month), so that should be interesting. If it's a better drive than the current model, I'll forgive it somewhat. I'll bite my tongue till then!

Burple

17th October 2006, 12:46 AM

quote:Originally posted by X30YES

http://www.mini2.com/galleries/data/500/thumbs/MINI_WORKS.jpg (http://www.mini2.com/galleries/data/500/MINI_WORKS.jpg) http://www.mini2.com/galleries/data/500/thumbs/MINI_WORKS_2.jpg (http://www.mini2.com/galleries/data/500/MINI_WORKS_2.jpg) ........JCW might look like this !!!!

Crikey... Shouldn't that have been in 'Cars'... Or 'Jimbo'?? ;);):p:p

X30YES

17th October 2006, 01:00 AM

Just for you Ewan , here is a CS review (http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car-review/2093964.aspx).... and Auto express mag
11th-17th (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/203206/this_weeks_auto_express.html) here :p

ELFMAN

17th October 2006, 05:09 PM

Thanks Angus, very interesting Aussie article. Sounds as if the new car is a noticable improvement over the current car - dynamically. It received a positive review on last night's 'Fifth Gear'. I'm looking forward to 'Evo's' test of the 'S'.

I'd like to see the new car with a Chrome Front Grille as opposed to the cheap & nasty black plastic. Seems the new car is more 'refined', but the 'rawer' edge of the old car still appeals to me - depends what you're looking for....... I'd like to try some of the ÒNew GenerationÓ Runflats though - sounds as if they've tried to address the current model's suspension/tyre niggles. Probably rides the same as my JCW set-up now...... Looking at the side view, the increase in the body height has the effect of making the wheels (even 17's) look smaller - 16's would be lost on it - so an 'S' with the Sports suspension, 18's and a Chrome Exterior would maybe look pretty good. No 'Cayenne' bodykits though! What do you reckon? I'm always open to persuasion......

Burple

17th October 2006, 05:32 PM

Weeeeellllllll... after seeing the Cooper S on 5th Gear last night, I'm glad to say my opinions are changing for the better... Still not so keen on the fat face and bulging eyes, or the fake scoop, but the rest of the car is DEFINITELY growing on me!!

Got to say the new exhaust note for the S is awesome! Hope it's like that on the production models!

Now... If they can sort out the centre console so it doesn't look cheap, and provide me with a space for a nice stereo, I'll be a happy continuing customer!! ;):D:D

Good Articles too Angus! :cool:

KenL

17th October 2006, 05:41 PM

I watched 5th Gear. I thought the new MINI looked great. To me, it looks a bit more grown up. I nice update without throwing away the character of the car.

Scottie

17th October 2006, 05:51 PM

got to admit I had a wee chuckle to myself last night when the guy said they have made the arches bigger.

I just saw the extra ££££ that dealers would add on for colour coding.

KenL

17th October 2006, 09:36 PM

I hope the arches are of better quality plastic this time. That is one thing that bugged me about the MINI. It took AGES to get them looking black and no matter what product you use (& I tried a few) they would not stay black for long enough.

There are a few black plastic bit on my Golf and they have not needed blackening at all in the 2 years I've had it.

ELFMAN

18th October 2006, 12:30 AM

Re. MINI Arches: Scottiecoop - never mind the cost of the paint, think of the cost of the alloys & Tyres you'll need to fill them properly!!

Even worse when you get polish on them, Ken!

KenL

18th October 2006, 05:58 AM

quote:

Even worse when you get polish on them, Ken!

No problem if you use Klasse All-in-One polish/sealant and/or P21S wax like I do now;)

No staining unlike that crappy Meguiars or Autoglym stuff :p

ELFMAN

18th October 2006, 06:48 AM

You learn something every day........

X30YES

18th October 2006, 11:08 AM

quote:Originally posted by ELFMAN

You learn something every day........
I'm not sure if you had a look at this Euan
5th gear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uA7e-sB3EQ), also on the page ,something about a Brabus Roadster and a MCS ( cant see it here so I cant say if its good or bad .

N12 JLK

19th October 2006, 07:44 AM

Cheers Angus we missed that on Fifth gear so it was good to see!! As Louis Walsh would say " I kinda liked it":D

X30YES

21st October 2006, 11:51 AM

quote:Originally posted by ScottieCoop

quote:Originally posted by ELFMAN

AAAHHHH! My people! My People! I thought I was just being my old curmudgeonly self (which I was), but I knew you all had TASTE.....well most of you.

This "Re-Design" is like putting comedy boobs on Cameron Diaz - why meddle with perfection? New MINI special edition, The “MINI PARTON” - too big in all the wrong places with lots of make up you don't need! But it DOES have a comfy seat.

Scottiecoop's Fashion Section: Re. High Waisters being "back in" - you'll no doubt be sporting Mullets, Bay City Rollers Tartan-edged shirts and 18-High Doc Martens at the next meet? Be still my heart......

AH so your pretty clued up about fashion then as Tartan is also "IN" for this year.;):p:kiss:

I'm hoping this link will take you straight to the Tartan page.:p if not you will need to search

http://order.next.co.uk/page.asp?b=G42&p=62&o=1

it sure is Fiona tartan CS (http://www.mini2.com/galleries/showphoto.php/photo/1370):p;)