Cooper S Question

[jamiec]

Quick question for you guys...

...whats the difference between the phase1 cooper s, pre 03 plate i think, and the later phase2 03 onwards?

So far I can see that the pedals on latter models were all aluminium.

Anyother changes? :)

[Gismo]

The steering wheel changed from 2 to 3 spoke, an extra cubby hole appeared beside your right knee on the dash, also, a glove box was optional

[KINGHORN]

Mine is dec 03 build and it has a 2 spoke wheel

[Mon the fish]

The pedals were only plastic on the very first S's, went to the aluminium look not long after.

Do you mean the difference when the lights changed, about mid-04 (I think)? If so, the power went from 163 to 170bhp (due to the JCW supercharger with coated blades I think), a closer ratio gearbox (so it feels quicker), different lights as I said, interior lights where the clock used to be above the rear-view mirror, clock now in the trip part of the speedo, LEDs in the inside door handles, the afore-mentioned steering wheel, erm... oh aye, another easy way to tell - pre-facelift - light in bumper is reversing light. Post-facelift - its the foglight, reversing lights part of the main cluster.

[jamiec]

Thanks Mon the fish thats what I was after.

Is it also worth avoiding some of the earlier ones? Any design flaws etc to watch out for?

[Mon the fish]

Not really, but the close-ratio gearbox improves the car quite a bit. And any daft niggles are more likely to be ironed out on later cars, but I think most of the niggles were ironed out before the S was launched.

In short, get a facelift car if you can afford it, definitely faster :cool:

[colink]

The facelifted S also has the poppy exhaust :D That alone is worth getting a newer one for ;)

[Big Col]

quote:Originally posted by colink

The facelifted S also has the poppy exhaust :D That alone is worth getting a newer one for ;)


I totally agree!

vroooooooooom popopoppopopopopopopopop :D:D:D:D

[Crombers]

quote:Originally posted by Big Col


quote:Originally posted by colink

The facelifted S also has the poppy exhaust :D That alone is worth getting a newer one for ;)


I totally agree!

vroooooooooom popopoppopopopopopopopop :D:D:D:D


Mmmmmm , adds a little weight to my 'S' dilema :approve:

[colink]

quote:Originally posted by Big Col


quote:Originally posted by colink

The facelifted S also has the poppy exhaust :D That alone is worth getting a newer one for ;)


I totally agree!

vroooooooooom popopoppopopopopopopopop :D:D:D:D


and if you get a GTT reroute pipe, it goes VRRRROOOOOM POP POP POP POP:D

[Cooper_si]

163bhp on early models and 170bhp on later models ;)

Also take the sponge out of the back panel trim...then hear it POP even louder !!! ha ha ha