Cooper S Front Disc and Pads Uprade

[Macooper]

What are peoples opinions on the following front brake disc/pads combination?

MTEC1555 Dimpled and Grooved, protective coating with Yellow stuff pads £212.22 or EBC Slotted and Dimpled with Yellow stuff pads kit £226.21

Any recommendations on stainless steel brake hoses?

Much appreciated

[MINI William]

I’m running Mtec Dimpled and grooves on my R53 and so far so good. Just about to change the pads to YellowStuff.

[stoney]

I wpuld go EBC disks Mtec are just cheap oem disks drilled and grooved.

As for lines i would just contract hell direct.

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[DigitalLemming]

I had MTEC drilled and grooved disks with Mintex M1144 pads on my R56 S, never a bother with them. Also fitted goodridge braided lines at the same time and the braking was significantly improved over stock.

[CiderFex]

I’ve had the M-Tec drilled and grooved on GP1499 for about 6.5 years now and after 30K+ miles there’s still loads of life left in them.
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After a year with the M-Tecs I added EBC Yellowstuff pads and Hel braided lines and no MINI needs more stopping power than that set up will give you.
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When Rocky needs new disks I shall have the exact same set up again.
...I’ll probably change them before I need them though.
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[Macooper]

Thanks for the responses I am assuming that you leave the rears as standard but fit the stainless steel braided brake hoses?

[CiderFex]

Thanks for the responses I am assuming that you leave the rears as standard but fit the stainless steel braided brake hoses?

I replaced all four disks. They are cheap enough so you may as well change the full set whilst you’re at it.
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[Big Gordy]

I had MTEC drilled and grooved disks with Mintex M1144 pads on my R56 S, never a bother with them. Also fitted goodridge braided lines at the same time and the braking was significantly improved over stock.

I'm running the same but with HEL braided hoses.......no issues so far. I run the MTEC discs and Mintex pads all round on the A4 Avant as well and they're damn good IMO as its a heavy car.....!!!!

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I replaced all four disks. They are cheap enough so you may as well change the full set whilst you’re at it.

And they look wicked :cool:

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I wpuld go EBC disks Mtec are just cheap oem disks drilled and grooved.

Mmmmm......don't know if that's true about MTEC.....but the only warping issues I've ever had with discs over the years has been with EBC....!!! Went through 2 sets of fronts under warranty for warping on my Mondeo Si in a matter of months. They may be better now tho :Whistle:

[CiderFex]

I wpuld go EBC disks Mtec are just cheap oem disks drilled and grooved.

As for lines i would just contract hell direct.

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That’s completely wrong in my experience Rob.
The ones on 1499 have lasted for 4 x HBT’s, every NMS & GP run that I ever did and also 5.5 years of commuting.
I know that a few on here could confirm that I have never held back when on a run.
If it was still on the road I would happily trust the ones on GP1499 on any run.
I’m not too sure why you think that they’re OEM either...



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[stoney]

I have been reliably informed that this is the case im just saying what i have found in my qest for disks and pad for the track.

Never said they wont last or warp ect

just they are oem with extra work done ie drill groves dimple

William did you jot have trouble with some rears the fist time round with the R53 im sure i recall

I was advised not to get them for the track as they have a tendency to crack esp if drilled but this gos for all drilled disks.

Just my opinion of corse.

And i have ran them in the past with no trouble on my GP and clubman.


only problem i found was the black coating can stick to the pads and course vibrations when braking if this happens you need to remove pads and grind the surface back a bit.

Just my tuppance worth and i have done a lot of resech on it as the r53 only really gets tracked so gets more of a hammering than you will do on any run .......

Stoney

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[CiderFex]

My own experience with them are that they are more than capable on any run no matter how hard I’ve pushed them.
All of my comments and thoughts are from my own real world experiences and not what I’ve just read on the internet.
Over the years I’ve read loads of comments and reviews on various car parts and most of them boil down to the fact that some folks will just slag stuff off if it’s not the most expensive on the market and a lot of them have never even used the product they are moaning about.
The only way that I can even begin to imagine that the M-Tecs would fail is if they were used by someone who hammered their brakes too much in a car that was way too powerful for their limited driving skills.

Each to their own though...


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[stoney]

The only way that I can even begin to imagine that the M-Tecs would fail is if they were used by someone who hammered their brakes too much in a car that is way too powerful for their limited driving skills.

Each to their own though...


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Well considering you dont track your car i would be very surprised if you knacked a set of disks and pads on a run if you did you would be driving like a loony and pitting your self and other in danger IMO


I have warped a set of mtec disks and also had blur smoke coming from the pads on track but never crashed out on track.

Yes i push hard on track that what track driving is about and it not just the internet it well know perfomance garge that have told me this info as well.as my own experiences.

I have driven and owned cars that have 2 or even 3 times the power of the mini so am more than capable of a mini with 230bhp my S4 had over 400bh and my dads RS6 have more than 650bhp and i took that out on track and guess what it never left the track once.

When i need to change my disks and pads again i will be going

Brombo perfomance disks and cobratec XP8 pads.

I know how to drive and drive fast i also know i have way more track time under my belt (some with instruction from race drivers) than a lot of people.... sk think im in a pretty good place to comment on my findings.

The last time i was put in the r53 at Cadwell park i was running Brembo diskes and mintex 1144 pads and did not have any brake fade when i ran the mtec and mintex pad set on my clubman they sufferd from brake fade quite badly.

So this is my REAL LIFE finding and not something I have read


And yes the brakes did get hammered but when doing 90+ heading towards a hairpin you kind of need to brake hard ........


Can i ask what your fining are on track Pete ........





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[CiderFex]

Can i ask what your fining are on track Pete ........

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Why ask about my findings are on track ?
That’s a completely irrelevant question in regard to the original question asked by the O.P.
Why does everything have to revolve around track use ?
Most people never use their cars on a track !!!
I’ve never used them on a track, as you well know, and I didn’t realise that this was originally posted as a “track use only” question ?
I have no interest in track driving because I enjoy driving on normal roads way too much and I personally would rather spend my spare money on petrol to just meet up with friends and family for great days/nights out instead of just driving around in circles.

May I just apologise personally to the OP regarding the above few posts.
I put my thoughts and experiences into the pot and did not expect it to turn into a “willy battle in the shower” type scenario...




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[MINI William]

On another note I have Brembo discs with the mintex pads on the rear. Can’t comment on their braking ability as the rear does very little but are like all Brembo products are and are a quality product. You will always find that people have a a difference in opinion on what works for them. I have used the Mtec discs on the front and they do the job and do stop the car quickly and efficiently enough for me to be happy with them for how they are used on the road. For a track based braking set up this may be different.

[Big Gordy]

Are Brembo's not about 3 times the price of Mtec....??
For "normal" road driving you'll have no issues with the Mtec/Mintex combo IMHO. If you have the budget by all means go for the Brembos as they are a quality product.
Brakes, like tyres, are always a subject open for (heated) debate and a lot of it does come down to personal experience :nag:

[digi]

im using mtec dimpled and groved disks all round with bluestuff pads ,they have been on the car for over 6 months with a few spirited drives and no problems with cracking warping or even fading , i dont do track days so cant comment on their suitability for track