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Scottie
28th December 2009, 09:06 PM
How great has the recent weather been.:thumbs up:

Ok maybe not for everyone certainly the old codgers like my Mum are happy Mum can't get her car out at the moment. I know my Scottie (Archie) is not happy with the weather either he cut his from paw this afternoon on some frozen solid sharp ice left a nice blood track on the pavement.

Some of you guys will remember 82 when if snowed boxing day and then froze for the next 6 weeks :thumbs up:

I hope wee get more snow

Gismo
28th December 2009, 09:15 PM
As long as it doesn't interfere with my upcoming travel plans i'm not fussed either way with snow

The Dogfather
28th December 2009, 09:19 PM
It's going to get colder for the rest of the UK, the SE will be chaos as usual, and it may last well into January.

Big snowfalls (probably) tomorrow in the Midlands

Personally, I love it

Craig
28th December 2009, 09:22 PM
I love the snow and I now know I can get to work even if it snows with ma winter tyres... :Whistle::lol:

AndyP & Lenore
28th December 2009, 09:24 PM
Stop going on about how wonderful your winter tyres are.:ragin:

Mine are still in the Kumho factory. By the time they are available it probably wont be worth getting them.:frown:

Edit: I love the snow too, but it does play havoc with our business.:sad:

A.

Fartin Martin
28th December 2009, 09:35 PM
I wish it would GTF!!!..I hate it..roll on summer 2010..nippin about..sunroof open..tunes blaring with my HK:smilewinkgrin::cool:!!..next year think im gonna invest in winter tyres..cant be annoyed with this sliding about carry on!!lol

Stewart
28th December 2009, 09:51 PM
I’ve not been out at all in the Mini (Normal tyres) I really should have had it out and seen how it is. In Glasgow the main roads are fine its just I live at the top of a hill and then the drive is up a hill. It’s a killer. Mind you the 09 Focus has been making it but I’ve had to clear the bottom of the drive nearly every day.


I remember 1982 I’ve still got the pictures, someone went down our street on ski’s with his milk and bread. The whole place came to a standstill which for Glasgow is unusual, I don’t know if it’s the surrounding Hills but we never really get it Bad.

Fartin Martin
28th December 2009, 09:55 PM
Yeah glasgow is fine eh..its just the wee areas off it!!!

Milton is gettin beyond ridiculous..im scraping on the SNICE(snow thats turned to ice) thats not getting driven on, when I go over a speed bumps..and my cars not even lowered yet!!lol

Scottie
28th December 2009, 09:57 PM
in 82" our road was a bob sleigh and I kid you not all 4 and 1/2 miles of it

Sheilz
28th December 2009, 10:24 PM
Dougall's coped very well with the winter weather. Has been less skittish on icy roads than I remember specy being under similar conditions.

audrey
29th December 2009, 12:08 AM
Sick of the snow and ice now cant even get out of my street in the car its so bad. Today couldn't get my car door shut the window wouldn't drop down because of the ice :argh::argh::argh:

The Dogfather
29th December 2009, 12:19 AM
This could easily rival 1981/82 and could even be right up there with 1962/63. The graph below shows what the temps in the upper atmosphere are predicted to do based upon a number of computer models. Its unusual to for them to run together like this unless things are pretty nailed on. Temps are usually 5 degrees less than what you can expect as a maximum, night time minimums can be much lower.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Aberdeen_ens.png?6767676767

The Dogfather
29th December 2009, 12:21 AM
Oh, usually if you have lying snow then a temp of 0C at the high level is all that is needed to produce snow, however -5C pretty much guarantees it.

Stewart
29th December 2009, 01:03 AM
Right now its about -4.3 at the house outside digital thermometer that links to the inside one. Its cold but we don’t have the snow. In 82 we had that heavy snow.

Audrey with you on the windows, I was going to move the car today but it was a heavy frost and really hate the fact it has to drop the window to open.

Livi
29th December 2009, 09:23 AM
Tia and her pal Gomez (both staffies) love the snow, its good to take them out and let them play in the field, but other than that, i hate the snow even for driving.

Susans dad called last night, Where he is in Canada is -25+ but i guess thats a different kinda coldness

N16SHP
29th December 2009, 02:10 PM
I hate this weather. And spent two days in A+E with my Dad hoping my mum was ok as she slipped on the pavement and cracked her head. Couldn't remember a thing. Was pretty frightening. She's thankfully getting better, and can remember most things up until about xmas day, but doesn't remember anything after that. So all in all, i wish it would get the hell away...Bring on global warming I say!

Delboy
29th December 2009, 05:06 PM
I quite like the snow and the icy mornings, as long as I don't have anywhere I need to go! It's great for walking the dog and taking the kids out to play in but not so good for driving to work and such like.

The Mini has hardly moved for over a week - I've been using my wife's 4x4 most of the time, for obvious reasons! Just wish I could give my car a wash while I'm off work - not likely for now though...

Sheilz
29th December 2009, 08:04 PM
Some of the pavements in town are in a horrendous mess. Little John St got itself quite a few casualties today. Sheet ice all down the pavement. Passed one old man who had a nasty fall and needed A&E. Aberdeen casualties include as many people being struck by cars as have fallen on ice because they've been forced to walk on roads. Good to hear your mum's making a good recovery, I can well imagine the anxiety for the family with something like that. One of my relatives was not so lucky when he fell on ice last winter. Was in a coma for months and needed specialist treatment in Glasgow to be able to return home paraplegic. The consequences of these things can be horrific.

rpn
30th December 2009, 11:09 AM
Coming to work this morning at 7:30 the temperture in Aberdeen was a tropic +4C, (yes PLUS 4)

Livi
30th December 2009, 11:58 AM
There was a front page story in Dundees Telegraph about how they would like people to help out with the gritting.

"there is around 500 grit bins in Dundee for people to use" in basically there words, well.... i haven't seen any and the ones i do see, there bloody empty!

I for one IMO think that the people who do not work (giro, Community service etc) should be the ones doing it to earn there money rather than sitting on there ass doing bugger all while the workers make there living!

No offence to the people who are on the brew, due to not being able to find work, but atleast your trying!

Livi
30th December 2009, 12:05 PM
Here is the story:

http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/output/2009/12/29/story14322940t0.shtm

AndyP & Lenore
30th December 2009, 02:15 PM
Coming to work this morning at 7:30 the temperture in Aberdeen was a tropic +4C, (yes PLUS 4)

That's positively tropical.;)

Sheilz
30th December 2009, 03:53 PM
There was a front page story in Dundees Telegraph about how they would like people to help out with the gritting.

"there is around 500 grit bins in Dundee for people to use" in basically there words, well.... i haven't seen any and the ones i do see, there bloody empty!

I for one IMO think that the people who do not work (giro, Community service etc) should be the ones doing it to earn there money rather than sitting on there ass doing bugger all while the workers make there living!

No offence to the people who are on the brew, due to not being able to find work, but atleast your trying!


You have a point. Nothing wrong with able-bodied folk who have no other commitments going around their neighbourhood to help others clear paths and pavements. Our grit bin was empty by Christmas night. In the old days folk didnt sit back whining about the council not clearing the pavements, they did it themselves.

See Aberdeen cooncil got caught with its pants down so to speak - yet again! They're excuse for not having the gritters out is that below -3C the salt/sand combo doesn't work. M says its a load of b*llocks. Just excuses to cover up slashed budgets to try and balance the books. Maybe not entirely their fault having to rob Peter, etc just think it would go down better with the public if they were honest about it.

Some of the pavements were great fun this morning - not! Had to risk walking on the dual carriage way otherwise would have had to belly crawl most of the way to work.

The Dogfather
30th December 2009, 04:26 PM
Actually below a certain temp the gritted roads will freeze, it all depends on the concentration of salt in the water, could be that -3C is right.

I seem to remember that -5C is the freezing point of a fairly strong salt solution

Burple
30th December 2009, 04:28 PM
Loving the snowy weather!

Was sledging in Perth other day all over the Golf course up Craigie way.. in about 9 inches of snow... ace fun!! :D:D:D

Livi
30th December 2009, 04:52 PM
You have a point. Nothing wrong with able-bodied folk who have no other commitments going around their neighbourhood to help others clear paths and pavements. Our grit bin was empty by Christmas night. In the old days folk didnt sit back whining about the council not clearing the pavements, they did it themselves.

Well... just spoke to mum there and she had to treck around the neighbourhood looking for a bin with grit, then it was barely enough after 2 bins to do half of her path!!

i think that it should be written down that people who are on the brew/giro etc.. should work for there money. (but then thats too easy and they have rights)

if i had nothing better to do and i was unemployed also looking for a job, id be happy to go sort out my street as i know its a pain to get up and drive on! but being the fact, its dark when i go to work and its dark when i get back (when its really cold) plus the other fact, i have just done my long shift im tired enough as it is.

Sheilz
30th December 2009, 06:43 PM
Well... just spoke to mum there and she had to treck around the neighbourhood looking for a bin with grit, then it was barely enough after 2 bins to do half of her path!!

i think that it should be written down that people who are on the brew/giro etc.. should work for there money. (but then thats too easy and they have rights)

if i had nothing better to do and i was unemployed also looking for a job, id be happy to go sort out my street as i know its a pain to get up and driv
e on! but being the fact, its dark when i go to work and its dark when i get back (when its really cold) plus the other fact, i have just done my long shift im tired enough as it is.One

Oops! Wasn't having a go at you. It was a reference to folk who haven't commitments, such as work. I was agreeing with you!

I know of one old man of 86 yrs who went about clearing paths around the sheltered housing he lives in because there had been no clearing done. Seems to be a bit of a lottery because where my mum stays in Kemnay the paths were spotless all around the place to keep it safe for the old folk.

Scottie
30th December 2009, 06:49 PM
The trouble is that Councils use salt they should use sand.

Sheilz
30th December 2009, 06:50 PM
Actually below a certain temp the gritted roads will freeze, it all depends on the concentration of salt in the water, could be that -3C is right.

I seem to remember that -5C is the freezing point of a fairly strong salt solution

In Canada they find salt & grit effective to -18C. Came from an article in the paper. Article followed enquiry from a local union rep who went to the depo and found it packed with idle gritters. Council denied they weren't using them almost round the clock. Today they changed their minds and came out with the -3C thing. I think that came after the rep asked management to release the tacos for the lorries. I've lived in Aberdeen for 30 yrs and have never heard them coming out with this as an excuse. There have been quite a few cold spells in the time I've lived here, just as cold if not quite so persistent as the current freeze (thawing just now tho) and the gritters have always been out. Any other winter the pavements would have been cleared after this length of icy/snowy weathers.

The Dogfather
30th December 2009, 08:18 PM
Sheilz, perhaps its the grit not the salt that's the key, or maybe its the quantity needed to keep the concentration high enough to prevent freezing, like you say council cost cutting being the reason.

Stewart
30th December 2009, 08:20 PM
Well that’s me got brownie points, cleared the drive completely so the two cars have no problem today. Got some grit out the local Bin five minutes walk and put it down. Also did the lady’s three down, she’s well into her eighties and although she has family they live in Sky. I do her wheelie bins always have done.

RyanK
30th December 2009, 10:06 PM
This left over ice is starting to do my napper in.

My car is about 30mm off the ground and everytime I go over the left over Ice it wallops my exhaust, oil sump, side skirts and so on. My street is the worst, alot of holes/gaps in the ice and when my car hits one the whole body catches and as you can imagine scrapes like hell.

Not good!

N16SHP
31st December 2009, 01:59 AM
Sheilz, my sister works for the council, and said the funds for street clearing is 60k. Hence why they were not running the gritters as they simply do not have the money for it and want to try and save for any other snow falls. Although I did enjoy that good gossip story in the Evening Distress about the idle gritters!

Livi
31st December 2009, 09:50 AM
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Oops! Wasn't having a go at you. It was a reference to folk who haven't commitments, such as work. I was agreeing with you!

I know of one old man of 86 yrs who went about clearing paths around the sheltered housing he lives in because there had been no clearing done. Seems to be a bit of a lottery because where my mum stays in Kemnay the paths were spotless all around the place to keep it safe for the old folk.

I wasn't taking it as a go, im just ranting more hehe