Fiat 500 Abarth 198bhp...

[zimbo]

Yup thats right saw it in a magazine yesterday, fiat are to produce a 500 ABARTH which will be pumping out 198bhp or something close to that!! that will be friggin scary to drive... :eek:

[illegalhunter]

Did you see the price , shocking

[zimbo]

Nope never saw the price, kinda thought/know it will be expensive...

[Forbes]

£20k?

[Ally S]

nah a great fan of the 500. I know they are supposed to be great but they are made by Fiat (reliability) and dont look that good in my opinion.

[GCA3N]

nah a great fan of the 500. I know they are supposed to be great but they are made by Fiat (reliability) and dont look that good in my opinion.

Ok so owning a mini is all about reliability.... Eh no, give you they don't look Good though.

[KenL]

I like them.

[Ally S]

Ok so owning a mini is all about reliability.... Eh no, give you they don't look Good though.

course not but its still important (to me). Otherwise I would probably be running about in a clio 172.

[GP BILLY]

I had a guy in a Arbarth 500 behind me (I was in the GP:hand:) and
lets just say he got his wee Fiat's a55 whipped:yes nod::yes nod:.

[RyanK]

Nice one volvic!

I do really like the 500's though. Only the abarth's though.

[KenL]

I had a guy in a Arbarth 500 behind me (I was in the GP:hand:) and
lets just say he got his wee Fiat's a55 whipped:yes nod::yes nod:.

No wonder, poor wee Abarth...

[Forbes]

They look great, but also a bit too small. I want something bigger next time

[Crombers]

made by Fiat (reliability)

Oh I dunno, my Punto (I bought it off my Dad who bought it new) has thus far had a much better 'reliability' record than my MINI :yes nod:

[ny152]

Oh I dunno, my Punto (I bought it off my Dad who bought it new) has thus far had a much better 'reliability' record than my MINI :yes nod:

Ditto. I've got a 500 diesel Sport and it's proven more reliable than my r56 mini did. It reminds me more of my 2003 MINI for its character than the r56 did!

[doogz__]

200bhp in a 500. Hope they get it right. It'll either be amazing to drive, or ****. Is it still a 1.4? Hope not, i'd imagine it'll be uber laggy.

[MrMischief]

I thought the Abarth concept was cool, but the car just isn't quick enough although the SS is a bit better.

My cash would go on an Alfa Mito GTA - 230bhp when it comes out :thumbs up:

[KenL]

My cash would go on an Alfa Mito GTA - 230bhp when it comes out :thumbs up:


Through the front wheels in a car that has not exactly had great handling reviews?

Power is nothing without control :hand:

[Smitty]

Through the front wheels in a car that has not exactly had great handling reviews?

Power is nothing without control :hand:

So very true....but look at it! Nobody buy's Alfa's with their head, there bought with your heart ad decisions are made purely on looks! :D :yes nod:

[The Dogfather]

But the Mito is as ugly as a Ford Scorpio

[zimbo]

ALFA + Electronics = :moonie: :lol:

[MrMischief]

Through the front wheels in a car that has not exactly had great handling reviews?

Power is nothing without control :hand:


Do you believe everything you read? :hand:

Even so, it's easy to fit a set of decent shocks/springs, ARB's & poly bushes, maybe an LSD too....then play about with it for a good setup. As said by others, you don't buy Alfa's with your head & as a Scots-Italian - it appeals to my Italian half :lol:

Compared to a Fiat 500, the Mito is miles ahead in the looks dept. :yes nod:

[The Dogfather]

The front of a Mito looks awful, gawky. Shame as its the only alfa I don't like the look of.

[The Bull]

You have to admit, this looks nice though. Fiat 695 Tributo Ferrari.

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_01.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_02.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_07.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_04.jpg

[KenL]

Do you believe everything you read? :hand:

Even so, it's easy to fit a set of decent shocks/springs, ARB's & poly bushes, maybe an LSD too....then play about with it for a good setup. As said by others, you don't buy Alfa's with your head & as a Scots-Italian - it appeals to my Italian half :lol:

Compared to a Fiat 500, the Mito is miles ahead in the looks dept. :yes nod:

Easy? Sounds easier just to buy a decent car in the first place ;)

BTW - I'm of to Florence for 3 days soon, any tips :thumbs up:

[KenL]

You have to admit, this looks nice though. Fiat 695 Tributo Ferrari.


I'm not 17, so it doesn't look that nice to me :p

[Craig]

You have to admit, this looks nice though. Fiat 695 Tributo Ferrari.

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_01.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_02.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_07.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_04.jpg

thats REALLY nice... <runs off to show Jude what her next car is going to be> :Whistle::clap:

[Smitty]

The front of a Mito looks awful, gawky. Shame as its the only alfa I don't like the look of.

Rubbish.....it's not up there with the Brera but I think it looks terrific! :p

[The Dogfather]

Might I recommend a trip to specsavers :moonie:

;)

[zimbo]

You have to admit, this looks nice though. Fiat 695 Tributo Ferrari.

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_01.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_02.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_07.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_04.jpg

That does look really nice, especially like the Ferrari esq touches like the rear valance looks very similar to the F360 and F430 and those seats just look SO NICE... :Whistle: Anyone spot the lack of a gear stick, so it has one of those flappy padle thingymajigs...

What is the significance of the 695 tho? Ohh and I dont think this will be cheap, not with the name Ferrari added!! :thud:

[Smitty]

Might I recommend a trip to specsavers :moonie:

;)

Looks are personal taste....I like it :D :p

I'm sure we can agree on this Alfa though....

http://media.nextautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/alfa-8c.jpg

;)

Not sure on the interior of the 500....those seat adjusters/controls are a bit weird!!

[MINI William]

You have to admit, this looks nice though. Fiat 695 Tributo Ferrari.

http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_01.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_02.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_07.jpg
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Fiat-695_Abarth_Tributo_Ferrari_2009_photo_04.jpg

The Sun had a bit about this in there motoring pull out last wedensday and they said that it cost £18000 which I find a bit hard to belive

[MrMischief]

The front of a Mito looks awful, gawky. Shame as its the only alfa I don't like the look of.

The 695 is quite sexy, but the Abarth SS should look like that anyway. It still reminds me of a Micra from the rear though :frown: Don't think the performance/equipment has been hiked enough to justify the cost.

http://openbiz.com.ua/~uploads/~3rdpartyimg/01-alfa-mito-gta-live(1).jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/03/Alfa_Mito_GTA_2.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3327/3329170966_9e0e5a15de.jpg

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/27-alfa-mito-gta-live.jpg

The Mito's not bad looking either....not the best front - I'll give you that, but it's not bad...and it's got a proper knob :D

[Crombers]

Worth the £18K just for the Ferrari badges :clap:

[Big Gordy]

Sorry guys, but I'm with Paul on this one with regards to the Mito....its just a bit to weird looking for me:frown:
Now the wee Fiat 695 that looks sooooooooooooooooooooper:yes nod: Pity they had to stick all those crappy ferarri badges on it tho:frown: Would look better standing out on its own....suppose you can always de-badge it:Whistle:

[Big Gordy]

Worth the £18K just for the Ferrari badges :clap:
You must be kidding:eek: They do make some nice looking machines but they don't appear to be very reliable. Here's a wee story for you..........
I work beside a guy who's mate got one of those 'hire an exotic car for the weekend' vouchers off his missus and decided to hire a Ferarri for the weekend. On the Thursday before the due weekend he got a call saying the Ferarri wasn't available so he took an Aston Martin instead. Had a great weekend with it and when it was getting picked up he asked what had happened to the Ferarri. The guy says its the biggest heap of crap known to man..!! It never out of the garage as there's always something going wrong with it and its more bother than its worth..!! Aston, Porsche, Bentley, etc all just need a service once a year and off they go but the Ferarri.....He only keeps one because thats what everyone wants to have a shot off otherwise he wouldn't bother with it.

[ianking]

I want a hot Mito and a hot 500. Prob is I want to keep my hot MINI as well.

[illegalhunter]

Ive test drove the Mito & the only thing to let it down was the gear stick , its so slack straight out of the Uno. Arnold Crap are now doing new 500 Arbarth for £13600

[ianking]

Ive test drove the Mito & the only thing to let it down was the gear stick , its so slack straight out of the Uno. Arnold Crap are now doing new 500 Arbarth for £13600

Was it a hot Mito or just the normal 1.4 or 1.6.

[euan]

Now, I drive past the Alfa dealer every day on my way to work and look at Mito's all the time. Colour is a big thing with the Mito, in the wrong colour they look wrong. In the right colour they just look a bit odd, but I like that. Let's face it, you can only do so much with a small car these days now that the EU make them all be pedestrian safe!

And I prefer the interior to the 500, which felt like it had built to a budget. Don't get me wrong, I love the styling (apart from the Micra ass) but they are too small and cheap feeling for me to spend my money on them.

Anyway, it's a moot point as if I was buying a small, sporty hatch, it would have a Mini badge on it.

[illegalhunter]

It was the 1.4 turbo , the GTA isnt avalible yet

[MrMischief]

The guy says its the biggest heap of crap known to man..!! It never out of the garage as there's always something going wrong with it and its more bother than its worth..!! Aston, Porsche, Bentley, etc all just need a service once a year and off they go but the Ferarri.....He only keeps one because thats what everyone wants to have a shot off otherwise he wouldn't bother with it.

What attracts you to a Ferrari though; reliability (nope), performance (in some cases), looks (yes) and of course there's the badge snobs. They've never been known for reliability due to their highly tuned nature - and also it's clever marketing by Ferrari as the service/repair costs keep them in business :hand: TBH, the abuse that the cars get with that type of hire company it's amazing they even bother with one Ferrari.

[minimad]

Sorry guys, but I'm with Paul on this one with regards to the Mito....its just a bit to weird looking for me:frown:
Now the wee Fiat 695 that looks sooooooooooooooooooooper:yes nod: Pity they had to stick all those crappy ferarri badges on it tho:frown: Would look better standing out on its own....suppose you can always de-badge it:Whistle:
is it just me but i can only see 1 tribute to ferrari badge on it :cool:not an actual ferrari badge mind you ive seen that sort of thing before with the LOTUS sunbeam or the LOTUS carlton or the etc etc etc ,this car bears ABARTH badges because its tuned by ABARTH the same way JCW tunes the mini.

[Crombers]

You must be kidding:eek: They do make some nice looking machines but they don't appear to be very reliable. Here's a wee story for you..........
I work beside a guy who's mate got one of those 'hire an exotic car for the weekend' vouchers off his missus and decided to hire a Ferarri for the weekend. On the Thursday before the due weekend he got a call saying the Ferarri wasn't available so he took an Aston Martin instead. Had a great weekend with it and when it was getting picked up he asked what had happened to the Ferarri. The guy says its the biggest heap of crap known to man..!! It never out of the garage as there's always something going wrong with it and its more bother than its worth..!! Aston, Porsche, Bentley, etc all just need a service once a year and off they go but the Ferarri.....He only keeps one because thats what everyone wants to have a shot off otherwise he wouldn't bother with it.

OK, but what age is this Ferrari? & why does everyone want a shot ;)

Line up an Aston, Bentley, Porsche & Ferrari & let's see what folk would go for ??

Prancing Horse wins me thinks

[john]

OK, but what age is this Ferrari? & why does everyone want a shot ;)

Line up an Aston, Bentley, Porsche & Ferrari & let's see what folk would go for ??

Prancing Horse wins me thinks

A Bentley hangs out the tail too ;)

[Big Gordy]

OK, but what age is this Ferrari? & why does everyone want a shot ;)

Line up an Aston, Bentley, Porsche & Ferrari & let's see what folk would go for ??

Prancing Horse wins me thinks

I think that's the problem tho Alan.......it's brand spanking new:eek:
He claims to have NO major issues with any of his other supercar fleet ie Aston, Lambo, Porsche, Zonda, he does them all:eek: He just services them when it says to and off they go. No drama. But the Ferrari seems to be a bit of a premadonna:rolleyes: Always wanting attention for something and he says its just a pain:frown: They do make some nice cars I'll grant you but would I buy one...don't think so...always been a Porsche 911 fan....GT3 anyone:thumbs up: I could buy 2 with the money saved not buying a Ferrari...lol
Anyway a Ferrari is just a re-badged FIAT ain't it:p Ohh but you have one of those as well don't you:moonie::bigwave:

[Big Gordy]

They've never been known for reliability due to their highly tuned nature

But why can't they do reliability when others can:confused:
Veyron, Zonda, Lambo etc all have engines that produce more power than a Ferrari and are considerably more reliable.
I guess I just don't get the hype involved with a Ferrari:rolleyes:

[Big Gordy]

Line up an Aston, Bentley, Porsche & Ferrari & let's see what folk would go for ??

Prancing Horse wins me thinks


Ohhhhh.....I feel a 'POLL' coming on:D

[zimbo]

Line up an Aston, Bentley, Porsche & Ferrari & let's see what folk would go for ??



Ohhhhh.....I feel a 'POLL' coming on:D

LOL well it would help if we knew which models of these cars you meant?
I mean if the following versions of these manufacturers were in the line-up then there is NO WAY I could choose one only, because I love them all!!!

ASTON - V12 Vantage
BENTLEY - Continental GT Speed
PORSCHE - GT2/GT3RS/TURBO/CLASSIC(NEW 2010)
FERRARI - Scuderia/16M

:lol:

[euan]

The reason hire Ferraris are so popular is that, typically, it's a wife/girlfriend who'll buy it and Ferrari have the badge. I'd love a go in one, probably over a 911 and perhaps the Aston, mainly for the noise :-)

If I was buying one of those, I'd probably get a 911 though - everyday practicality with good performance.

[Big Gordy]

If I was buying one of those, I'd probably get a 911 though - everyday practicality with good performance.

Well done young man:thumbs up:......and its about 40 grand cheaper:eek:
An Audi R8 V10 would fit the bill nicely too come to think of it:Whistle:

[Big Gordy]

Jings:eek:.....I've gone waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay:off topic: Sorry:blush:

[Gismo]

Jings:eek:.....I've gone waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay:off topic: Sorry:blush:
You're in the off topic and banter forum :shut up:

[MrMischief]

But why can't they do reliability when others can:confused:
Veyron, Zonda, Lambo etc all have engines that produce more power than a Ferrari and are considerably more reliable.
I guess I just don't get the hype involved with a Ferrari:rolleyes:

I already answered that - servicing costs keep Ferrari afloat ;) Have to admit I love 911's too but was disappointed to whip a new GT3RS in my old GTiR in competition. It'd have to be a turbo Porker then :D

Have to try and get back on topic....:Whistle:

[GCA3N]

I had a guy in a Arbarth 500 behind me (I was in the GP:hand:) and
lets just say he got his wee Fiat's a55 whipped:yes nod::yes nod:.

Not really too much out there that you wouldn't have spanked in your gp