Hiya guys

[steviewonder]

Hi friendly mini folk my name is Stevie and im 20 years old from a place called Hamilton and currently i drive a VW Lupo GTI 1.6 16v it came with 131.6bhp at flywheel as standard since then i have done the following i have prob overlooked some stuff i have done to it too.

Chassis-
FK Konigsport silverline X coilovers
Powerflex bushes
OMP strut brace

Engine-
BMC CDA
4-2-1 Manifold
200cell race cat
Custom cat back with sports midbox

Brakes and Tyres-
280mm dimpled and grooved discs
Racing brake pads
goodrich braded hoses
195/45/15 champiro GT tyres

Styling-
Red painted rocker cover
front and rear painted vw badge
3 point harnesses
tinted windows
red grill piping

I.C.E
sony xplod head unit
2x audiobahn 12 inch subs
audiobahn mono amp

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Now for the reasons i've joined. There are two reasons to be honest the first is that im currently in the process of supercharging the lupo using an Eaton m45, yes the same one from a cooper s. I have picked one up for £175 is this a good price? And secondly my sister has a corsa just now and is looking to upgrade to a mini this year so i figured this was the place to keep my eye out for a mint one for her ;)

[AndyP & Lenore]

Hi Stevie, :welcome:

Can't help you on the Supercharger issue. But you have chosen the right place for the MINI discussions. Hope your sister finds a MINI soon.

As a side note, could you reduce the size of some of your pics. The basic rules are no larger than 800X600 pixels. Many thanks.

A.:thumbs up:

[audrey]

Hi Stevie ;bigwave: Lovely wee car cant help with your question though know nothing about cars :frown:

[RyanK]

Welcome to NMS! Lupo is ace, they are awesome cars:thumbs up:

[Gismo]

:welcome: that's more than a serious few mods for the Lupo, nice work there :thumbs up:
You won't be disppointed with the supercharger, as for cost, maybe a wee bit expensive for second hand unless it's a JCW variant with extra coated blades or if it's virtually brand new.

Keep us posted on the mods as you do them, very interesting :smilewinkgrin:

[Crombers]

Welcome to NMSland :cool: , we'll be seeing you in a MINI soon then :rolleyes: :hand:

[Mini Ecosse]

:welcome:;bigwave:

[bry_mini]

Hey! :welcome:
sure i have seen you on the odd sunday night in hamilton!

[J444 JNY]

Hey Stevie

Didnt expect to see you on here lol :p

Jenny

[MrMischief]

Hey Stevie,

Very cool Lupo you've got there :thumbs up: My wife had the TDi version for a few years before we got a Cooper S, are you on Club Lupo?? Is that a pic or 2 of it in Star's old workshop?

Is it an early supercharger, or the later one with the coated (they look matt black) blades? I just got a later spec one, basically brand new with only delivery miles on it for £112 :smilewinkgrin: but £175 ain't too bad compared to BMW :eek:

Are you going to reduce the compression before you fit the 'charger? Will it need larger injectors too & what management are you thinking of?

Interesting project :thumbs up:

Steve

[steviewonder]

Hey thanks for the warm welcome comments guys picked my new charger up last night just need a few more parts and then its all go time

My friend lara thats on here says my car is not gonna be a normal lupo anymore but instead be a coopercharged lupo :knife:

Yes im reducing the compression down to 8.5:1 using a 3mm decompression plate.

Yeah i used to go down Hamilton quite a bit but not so much anymore.

Car wont be on the road for much longer im expecting a turnaround of 2/3months but could be longer but will be well worth it in the end :thumbs up:

[MrMischief]

Yes im reducing the compression down to 8.5:1 using a 3mm decompression plate.

Do you really need to use a decompression plate?? The standard Lupo GTi comp ratio is 11.5:1 if I remember right? 3mm is a pretty thick area to have at the crown of the piston. Will the squish area dynamics not give you a poorer burn pattern with that there, and probably more chance of getting DET? If you're able to take it off the road for that length of time you'd be better off going for new lower comp pistons & freshening up the bottom end with new shells to begin with. The M45 shouldn't stress the engine too much, the rods should handle it without any probs. Get some serious headwork done to help flow the extra air, ARP studs all round and get a decent intercooler in somewhere :Whistle:

Good luck if you use the plate. ;)

[steviewonder]

A few people have thought the same as you but with the pistons vw used a really fooked up way of making them where their is an oil chamber running up the centre of them which is normally only found on motorcycle engines and when trying to get some custom made they cost far too much so thats a no go area until possibly next year when financing gives me a bigger budget. The standard engine internals can cope with upto approx 250bhp so no need to fiddle about just now and my budget cannot allow for extras. The head on the GTi is pretty poor and so is the inlet manifold so there are some limitations with this engine. There are some 1.4 models running the m45 on a standard engine with the decomp plate and are achieving 195bhp from a standard 100bhp engine. And have been running fine for over 2years in one of them. I need to find an intercooler to fit and will no doubt end up having to go outwith my budget and get a custom one :(
My dimensions for the intercooler are 650mm end to end, 180mm max height and 65mm max depth which is proving a bit hard to find :(
The noise is completely awesome i must say from those that have done them.

My engine hasnt covered many miles and has also never really been driven to hard so the engine should be in awesome condition but we shall see what i need to do once it goes off the road and gets stripped. I will prob end up with it off the road for a good few month more than i think uprating the internals once i start it as im a perfectionist. We shall wait and see what happens :smilewinkgrin:

[MrMischief]

You're right, the standard head & inlet are pretty poor, that's the main point you should focus on prior to supercharging it. For your intercooler, try round the usual suspects Forge, Pace etc. They'll probably have some universal coolers round that size or try frount mounting an Impreza TMIC as they're pretty compact but should cope no problems with the flow you're looking at. Also, I remember Fensport have a rather long and narrow stage 1 cooler for the ST205 Celica GT4, maybe worth looking at? (it's 650x165x80 if that's a help?)

Have you thought about uprating the fuel pump, getting an adjustable FPR, what type of management you're going for???

If you're thinking of uprating the internals anyway get a 0% credit card and get your custom pistons made up rather than using the plate. Better to do it right first time round and causing less problems during mapping than having to strip it twice :thumbs up:

It'll be a blast when you finish it, can I book a passenger ride just now ;)

[Duncan Stewart]

:D Hi and Welcome :D

[steviewonder]

Lucky me is getting a bigger budget for this now so more work for the head and inlet mani will be going ahead now. Fuel pump and injectors are more than capable of the uprated power so no need to touch them, have looked into it and think my sis is looking at getting me it for my 21st ;) if not then il probably change it at a later date.
Sorry buddy that intercooler is a touch too big found one that may fit and is £79 and capable of upto 400bhp which even if it doesnt work is only a small price to pay. Management wise im using the standard ecu remapped to cope with the boost etc. A stand alone unit such as emerald only has around 6 to 8 different maps where as the standard ecu has 64 different maps for the throttle alone! So makes much more sense to control everything from the standard ecu as its the exact same unit as in the 2.0T fsi unit that the mk5 golf gti uses. The aftermarket ecu's can also cause some ignition problems as my friend using a megasquirt unit found out about pre spark.

I cant wait for the first drive of the thing it will be awesome although i think il need a trip to the autobahn if i want to ahve any real fun :P

Heres my spec for the conversion just now to give you a better idea about the conversion. I've left out my issues with the radiator and air con piping just now as its the hardest part and am still working on how to route things and how much it will cost.

1) pistons
JE pistons, America are looking into my pistons and have told me this is my best option. My pistons are as the original ones are, but have a reinforced gudgeon pin, and through pin oiling. I'm paying about £450 for them, and buying total seal piston rings (gapless) which are extremly good They are about £70 a set from what i can remember.

2) conrods
Dave at performance unlimited thinks i dont need them, so i may not go for it as there quite dear. The oil channel beterrn the big end bearing and the little end bearing costs an extra £90 per rod. The base price of the con rods was about £243 per rod i think. That was a copy of the original rod, without the oil channel through the rod (stronger) and oil channels drilled in to the top of the rod for gudgeon pin oiling. and carrillion specialits CARR bolt (£32 per bolt X8). Again these were all designed to the specifications of my engine.. power etc etc, its what you pay specialists for! my total estimated price for both pistons and rods came to £1700.

3) machine work inc. head/bottom end rebuild
I will either have stangard bearings or coated bearings, the way it looks, i will have standard ones as there more than adequate for the job. I will be having my head ported and gas flowed, new valve stems (more of a precaution than anything), inlarged inlet valves (exhaust cant get much bigger for the ammount of gain), and the ports have been matched to gasket size, and then the inlet/exhaust mainfolds adjusted accordingly. I've budgetted around £550 for this work and i found small local machine shops are cheaper than the mainstream stuff that you will undoubtably pay through the nose for!


4) decompression gasket,
Once again im having this done on the cheap of a friend who is laser cutting it. Send him a new OE head gasket and he is making one, also need the sealant, think i paying around £40 in total for the plate.

5) uprated clutch
I havent decided between a paddle clutch or heavy duty one, but i will need an uprated clutch if you want to go 180bhp+.


6) valves/springs in head,
Larger inlet valves and multi angle seats, think the valves were about £12-£16 each on the inlet size so X8.

7) pulley for charger,
The standard mini one comes on it, so thats normally good for the job. Gives you a ratio on the lupo engine that allows it to spin up to 13600rpm at 7000rpm with approx 10psi boost.

8) custom inlet/outlet on charger
I'm having mine made by a friend. He's suggested having a plate that covers the outlet, and has a 76mm outlet hole on it. this reduces to 65mm in the pipework for the whole system, as thats the size of my intercooler ports.


9) ECU mapping,
Ive allowed £400-800 for the std ecu to be mapped. It proabbly wont be that expensive though, dont know too much on this atm as its still in development. There is one guy getting it done at the end of January so will have a set price once his is done.

10) pipework for charger ,
I worked it out where i wanted to route it then went on to ebay and ordered it accordingly. I havent had any custom bits made. my pipework cost about £120, but i have spare bits left at the moment.

[L66RRA]

He secretly wants a Mini he just won't admit it. :rolleyes::smilewinkgrin:
Welcome wee yin.:thumbs up:

[Ivano]

Hello and Welcome :welcome:

I am a big fan of the VW Scene... Your Lupo looks fantastic! One day i am going to venture to the Worthersee VW show.. The VW show of all VW shows. In the meantime i will wait on the Worthersee 2008 highlights DVD being shipped from the States which i purchased from the Wagenwerks boys... Only 200 copies in the world so a very rare purchase indeed..

It would look great with some Euro Look wheels such as Schmidt TH Lines or BBS RS'S. I know its costly but have you ever considered??

[MrMischief]

1) pistons
JE pistons, America are looking into my pistons and have told me this is my best option. My pistons are as the original ones are, but have a reinforced gudgeon pin, and through pin oiling. I'm paying about £450 for them, and buying total seal piston rings (gapless) which are extremly good They are about £70 a set from what i can remember.

They're good, I had them in my GT4 WRC with no problems at all when running 1.3bar on the std turbo.


2) conrods
Dave at performance unlimited thinks i dont need them, so i may not go for it as there quite dear. The oil channel beterrn the big end bearing and the little end bearing costs an extra £90 per rod. The base price of the con rods was about £243 per rod i think. That was a copy of the original rod, without the oil channel through the rod (stronger) and oil channels drilled in to the top of the rod for gudgeon pin oiling. and carrillion specialits CARR bolt (£32 per bolt X8). Again these were all designed to the specifications of my engine.. power etc etc, its what you pay specialists for! my total estimated price for both pistons and rods came to £1700.

I wouldn't bother with them at the moment, if you're only running the M45 they'll cope fine....I think :smilewinkgrin:


3) machine work inc. head/bottom end rebuild
I will either have stangard bearings or coated bearings, the way it looks, i will have standard ones as there more than adequate for the job. I will be having my head ported and gas flowed, new valve stems (more of a precaution than anything), inlarged inlet valves (exhaust cant get much bigger for the ammount of gain), and the ports have been matched to gasket size, and then the inlet/exhaust mainfolds adjusted accordingly. I've budgetted around £550 for this work and i found small local machine shops are cheaper than the mainstream stuff that you will undoubtably pay through the nose for!

Definitely use little shops. Find a good engineer & he'll take time & pride in your machine work, giving much better results than some of the well publicised outlets.


4) decompression gasket,
Once again im having this done on the cheap of a friend who is laser cutting it. Send him a new OE head gasket and he is making one, also need the sealant, think i paying around £40 in total for the plate.
:hand:


5) uprated clutch
I havent decided between a paddle clutch or heavy duty one, but i will need an uprated clutch if you want to go 180bhp+.

Get an organic Helix clutch. No need for a paddle with the torque it'll produce. I've had several of them in cars ranging from MR2's to a rather nippy 12s Pulsar that ran down the drag strip around 20-30 times per meeting and it went to 12 meetings in the year. Clutch was fine after all those 5k rpm launches with 4 wheels spinning. Brilliant clutches. :thumbs up:


6) valves/springs in head,
Larger inlet valves and multi angle seats, think the valves were about £12-£16 each on the inlet size so X8.

Sounds good. 3 angle valve seats should be enough. Any more's overkill.


7) pulley for charger,
The standard mini one comes on it, so thats normally good for the job. Gives you a ratio on the lupo engine that allows it to spin up to 13600rpm at 7000rpm with approx 10psi boost.

You know you want a 15% reduction pulley :D

[steviewonder]

15% pulley would be lovely, but i feel i will be running more than enough power through a fwd car. I will need a lsd and quaife have quoted me over 4800 for the unit :S i should be hopefully seeing figures above 230bhp on this alone never mind any future tuning in store for next year, and 210bhp is arounthe max any fwd car should have before putting a diff in place.

and lara, your just jealous cause my lupo is nicer than your minging mini which only gets a good clean when i do it for you! I would have liked a mini before but they are just too common for me and after seeing laras it makes you sick thinking of them, seriously its an embarrassement to minis :moonie:

but seriously a mini was overpriced and too common for my liking where as the lupo has done me proud and i am a vag hag, when purchasing the loop, i got an insurance quote for a cooper s and due to my age no-one would have touched me on a charged car now however 2 years down the line im going to have a truelly unique car as mine is a rare colour and spec of lupo.

shall be fun,

and LARA!!! any chance of you karting me about while my car is off the road and i'll clean your car and your house please ;)

[Gismo]

Excellent write up and plans, i'd be very interested to see the finished product and it would be welcome on any of my runs :thumbs up:

[steviewonder]

thanks thats awesome i can be a memeber of the mini team :smilewinkgrin:

it will be partially mini after all :P

its a vw lupo cooperchared as lara says :P

iv heard your runs are really good so id be honoured to come a wee run are you having a stand at any car shows this year?

[ELFMAN]

Nice motor and excellent Spec, Stevie! My pal and his wife in Edinburgh both drive Lupos - his is a wee turbodiesel. He's uprated the suspension and brakes and will at some stage be re-mapping to give about 90+ BHP and a really silly amount of torque - it's bog-standard looking and will be a total 'Street Sleeper' - it's great fun even now!

Pity I didn't know about your plans earlier, I've had a fairly minted '03 Supercharger sitting in the hut for the last two years. It came off when I got the 'Works 210' kit fitted. Anyway, best of luck with all the mods - Hats off to proper tuning.

ps MINIS may be 'Common' these days, but we're still Cool!!!!

[steviewonder]

yeah they are cool wee cars i like them a lot and do you still have the spare charger about as i may be doing 2 of the eaton conversions on 2 seperate cars now ;)