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Craig
28th November 2008, 10:47 PM
One of the longer runs of the year, but some of the best scenery that Scotland has to offer and a great lunchtime stop in Oban :thumbs up:

Start of the run will be in Callander and finish at Loch Lomond Shores in Balloch. ;)

Update Monday 3rd August

Meet in Callander at the Car Park behind the Dreadnought Hotel (FK17 8AN)
from 09:30hrs, leaving @ 10:00hrs

Should be in Balloch for 17:00hrs :thumbs up:

Last years thread is HERE (http://www.newminiscotland.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=13544)

DOWNLOAD RUN NOTES HERE (http://www.newminiscotland.co.uk/run_notes/2009/argyll_and_bute_2009.pdf)

Names Please...

1. Craig & Jude - Founder of the Black Eye Purple Appreciation society.
2. David (JC Parts)
3. Scottiedoop & Allan
4. AndyP & Lenore
5. Bumble
6. Crombers & Karen
7. Sav112
8. Burple - Member of the Black Eye Purple appreciation society.
9. CCM
10. grieg allan (Greig & Kim)
11. Sheilz
12. Elfman
13. Neil & Lorna (maybe)
14. Mini Ecosse (Stephen & Allyson)
15. Ivano
16. leighj (maybe)
17. minimad (Tony)
18. Ally S
19. NorthSea888 (Maybe)
20. Knoxy (in his race car if the engine isn't in a million bits)
21. David & Fiona

Gismo
28th November 2008, 10:51 PM
Well, what do you know :ragin: i'm home, sorry Craig, please add me and Me Julie to the list :moonie:

Scottie
28th November 2008, 10:54 PM
us

Craig
28th November 2008, 10:56 PM
Well, what do you know :ragin: i'm home, sorry Craig, please add me and Me Julie to the list :moonie:

Funny that.... :rolleyes:


us

thats you all added. :thumbs up:

AndyP & Lenore
28th November 2008, 11:55 PM
Us please.:D

Craig
28th November 2008, 11:57 PM
Us please.:D

Added :thumbs up:

Bumble
29th November 2008, 01:08 AM
ME!

Craig
29th November 2008, 11:23 AM
ME!

and added to this run.. ;)

N12 JLK
29th November 2008, 12:27 PM
We have a wedding the night before, so will say no for now:rolleyes:

Crombers
29th November 2008, 04:46 PM
Us, work permitting :thumbs up:

Stewart
29th November 2008, 05:45 PM
Has to be done, got my name down for the twilight run but this looks a fantastic run as well.....I know this road well but it looks like a few twists to my general route, only small deviation is that Glen Orchy when in fact you’ve gone on the Fort Willaim road. I take it this is the B8074…………..god Google earth strike again………anyone been up that B8077?



Apart from the 8074 and that B839 which I’ve just found and I know this road well……….



Put me down if you don’t mind…….

Craig
29th November 2008, 07:10 PM
Us, work permitting :thumbs up:


Has to be done, got my name down for the twilight run but this looks a fantastic run as well.....I know this road well but it looks like a few twists to my general route, only small deviation is that Glen Orchy when in fact you’ve gone on the Fort Willaim road. I take it this is the B8074…………..god Google earth strike again………anyone been up that B8077?



Apart from the 8074 and that B839 which I’ve just found and I know this road well……….



Put me down if you don’t mind…….


Thats you all added.

:thumbs up:

stoney
30th November 2008, 12:05 PM
put me down as a mabie cos its 4 days before my wedding :D

so dont know will need to see how busy i will be :thumbs up:

Stewart
30th November 2008, 06:41 PM
Just get your side in order and I bet a wee run would do the world of good………just before that big day………….Obviously after your married things will need to change, I mean the spotlights will have to go for a start…………….:D

Colin
30th November 2008, 08:31 PM
Yes please :yes nod:

GCA3N
30th November 2008, 10:17 PM
Just joined NMS and looking forward to some runs next year, this one sounds amazing I would love to come along. Hopefully this wont be the first one, will be looking for some ones early on in the year, if i am not offshore, cheers Greig and Kim

Gismo
30th November 2008, 10:20 PM
Just joined NMSEh :eek: you've been a member since April 2007 :Whistle:

Craig
30th November 2008, 10:36 PM
Just joined NMS and looking forward to some runs next year, this one sounds amazing I would love to come along. Hopefully this wont be the first one, will be looking for some ones early on in the year, if i am not offshore, cheers Greig and Kim

Hi Greig & Kim,

thats you added. ;)

Duncan Stewart
2nd December 2008, 09:12 PM
Add Helen and Myself please :D Cheers

ELFMAN
10th December 2008, 12:56 AM
It's like looking waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay into the future..... but put me down -
I'll be there if the senility holds off till then...

Craig
10th December 2008, 08:33 AM
Add Helen and Myself please :D Cheers


It's like looking waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay into the future..... but put me down -
I'll be there if the senility holds off till then...

thats you guys added. :cool:

Neil and Lorna
11th December 2008, 08:11 PM
Craig.

Stick our names down as maybes for just now, wont know for sure till nearer the time.

Cheers Neil and Lorna.:thumbs up:

Crombers
23rd December 2008, 11:41 AM
Am I right in noticing that this is the day after Cullen. If so, some peeps (myself included) will have some job getting from Aviemore (night stop of beer & banter) to the early morning start in Callendar :thud:

Gismo
23rd December 2008, 06:18 PM
Am I right in noticing that this is the day after Cullen. If so, some peeps (myself included) will have some job getting from Aviemore (night stop of beer & banter) to the early morning start in Callendar :thud:Ah, that is so right and to be fair, the Cullen run has been posted up for months in the calendar

Edit: John had organised the Cullen run to coincide with my rota, hmm

Craig
23rd December 2008, 10:30 PM
yeah, some stuff will clash, but to fit in with everything else in the year, I couldn't select any other date... ;)

and also the Argyll Run as been at the same time of year for 4 years now... :rolleyes::Whistle:

Mini Ecosse
30th December 2008, 02:59 PM
Maybe working a different shift rota from April.
Put us down as a maybe please.

Craig
30th December 2008, 06:13 PM
Maybe working a different shift rota from April.
Put us down as a maybe please.

Will do Stephen. ;)

Ivano
2nd January 2009, 02:02 PM
Craig, Stick me down for this one this year :thumbs up:

Craig
2nd January 2009, 06:40 PM
Craig, Stick me down for this one this year :thumbs up:

thats you added Ivan ;)

Duncan Stewart
15th January 2009, 09:01 PM
Not going to make it this year :sad: so please take us off the list.
Have a good run :D

Craig
15th January 2009, 09:02 PM
Not going to make it this year :sad: so please take us off the list.
Have a good run :D

No Problem Duncan :thumbs up:

Sheilz
22nd January 2009, 01:52 PM
Can specy be added too please Craig?

Craig
22nd January 2009, 03:46 PM
Can specy be added too please Craig?

thats you added :thumbs up:

Mini Ecosse
5th February 2009, 02:42 PM
Maybe working a different shift rota from April.
Put us down as a maybe please.

Please change from maybe to a runner :thumbs up:

Craig
5th February 2009, 05:42 PM
Please change from maybe to a runner :thumbs up:

Done :thumbs up:

leighj
5th February 2009, 08:09 PM
Could u put my name down as a maybe please?

I remember being in Oban a few years back when all the MINIs were at the Corran Halls car park, was very busy!

Craig
10th June 2009, 04:26 PM
well, the man upstairs must really hate me as I now have a BIG problem....:argh:

I have been invited to a very good friends wedding on Sat 1st (MarkyC and his partner Nicola) :thumbs up: and that will mean a few sherbets (which is bad enough)

however another one of my close friends has invited me to his daughters cristening on the Sunday 2nd and I really can't say no. :frown:

So, the question is, do I change the date (I know I know, this has been discussed some time ago:rolleyes:). or does someone want to take the lead on this run and leave the date as it is. :confused:

If I was to move it, it would be later in the month of Aug...

Again, sorry for this, but life sometimes plays you a curve ball...:rolleyes::argh:

AndyP & Lenore
10th June 2009, 04:40 PM
Change of date OK for us.:D

stoney
10th June 2009, 05:56 PM
chang would not be bad for me i may well be able to come

GCA3N
10th June 2009, 05:59 PM
9th is ok for me craig, but would be away for 16th and 23rd. Hope that would be your preferred date .:D

Scottie
10th June 2009, 06:14 PM
any date is ok with us

Mini Ecosse
10th June 2009, 06:31 PM
As long as it's not the 16th, working :argh:

Stewart
10th June 2009, 09:08 PM
Its the 23rd....or 9th?

Colin
10th June 2009, 09:49 PM
Any date in Aug is OK for me :yes nod:

Craig
10th June 2009, 10:31 PM
thanks for the replies folks. :thumbs up:

I'll wait for a few more replies, but it looks like it may move back a week to the 9th Aug. ;)

Ivano
10th June 2009, 10:51 PM
Craig, I'm totally ok with a date change. Anytime August pretty much suits me :thumbs up:

GCA3N
11th June 2009, 06:12 AM
thanks for the replies folks. :thumbs up:

I'll wait for a few more replies, but it looks like it may move back a week to the 9th Aug. ;)


:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Crombers
11th June 2009, 02:52 PM
Well thats just terrific buddy

Guess what I'll be doing on the 9th

Craig
11th June 2009, 03:50 PM
Well thats just terrific buddy

Guess what I'll be doing on the 9th

hey dinnae blame the messenger... :moonie: and at least you got a road trip this year... :argh::yes nod:

oh aye - need to remember and visit my local MINI dealer to look at clubmans and convertibles... :Whistle:

GCA3N
11th June 2009, 08:22 PM
hey dinnae blame the messenger... :moonie: and at least you got a road trip this year... :argh::yes nod:

oh aye - need to remember and visit my local MINI dealer to look at clubmans and convertibles... :Whistle:


Only clubmans Craig, I'm getting the convertible next year!

Bumble
11th June 2009, 09:40 PM
i'm fine for date change too

Crombers
11th June 2009, 09:44 PM
hey dinnae blame the messenger... :moonie: and at least you got a road trip this year... :argh::yes nod:

oh aye - need to remember and visit my local MINI dealer to look at clubmans and convertibles... :Whistle:

Just joshin, I'll be there :rolleyes:

minimad
11th June 2009, 10:33 PM
hi craig can you put me down has a maybe please:thumbs up:

Craig
12th June 2009, 04:47 PM
hi craig can you put me down has a maybe please:thumbs up:

No probs Tony - be good to see you again. :thumbs up:

Craig
12th June 2009, 04:50 PM
right, as all who have posted do not have a prob with the date change, I have moved the run back a week to try and accomodate all. If you cannot make this date, I apologise and I will take you off the list.. ;)

Date changed from 2nd August to 9th August. :thumbs up:

Neil and Lorna
12th June 2009, 05:26 PM
That will be fine with us:thumbs up:

Neil and Lorna

stoney
12th June 2009, 05:40 PM
dont know yet !!! will let you know on the 8th

GCA3N
12th June 2009, 05:50 PM
You know my feelings Craig, :clap::clap::clap::clap:

Ally S
22nd June 2009, 07:47 PM
add me to the list please

Craig
22nd June 2009, 08:18 PM
add me to the list please

no worries Ally - be good to see you on a run. :thumbs up:

shaunbhoy67
22nd June 2009, 10:05 PM
hey craig stick me down for a maybe at the moment and i will check when get to work the morn and let you know! cheers :D

Craig
22nd June 2009, 10:20 PM
hey craig stick me down for a maybe at the moment and i will check when get to work the morn and let you know! cheers :D

no worries mate - thats you added. :cool:

MINI William
29th June 2009, 06:12 PM
Craig put us down for this one.Will be taken mums new Cooper D

Happy 1000th post to me

Craig
29th June 2009, 08:42 PM
Craig put us down for this one.Will be taken mums new Cooper D

Happy 1000th post to me

Nice one :thumbs up:

Looking forward to seeing it. :yes nod:

D3 JDA
29th June 2009, 11:59 PM
HI there craig just realised we not down for this run can you add us pls cheers David and Fiona :thumbs up:

Craig
30th June 2009, 07:35 AM
HI there craig just realised we not down for this run can you add us pls cheers David and Fiona :thumbs up:

okey dokey

thats you added. ;)

stoney
1st July 2009, 07:54 AM
we wont make this one now as we will be in paris :cool:

Craig
1st July 2009, 09:35 AM
we wont make this one now as we will be in paris :cool:

Nae bother rob. .

Gismo
8th July 2009, 07:56 PM
Sorry Craig, i can't make this run, apart from not having my car i'll be in the states visiting the relatives.
Apologies as i know you went to great lengths to make sure i was home :sad:

Craig
8th July 2009, 09:22 PM
Sorry Craig, i can't make this run, apart from not having my car i'll be in the states visiting the relatives.
Apologies as i know you went to great lengths to make sure i was home :sad:

some folk... :rolleyes:

nae worries Alan, I would be in the states on hols if I could... ;)

Enjoy your hols :thumbs up:

Scottie
8th July 2009, 09:36 PM
Sorry Craig, i can't make this run, apart from not having my car i'll be in the states visiting the relatives.
Apologies as i know you went to great lengths to make sure i was home :sad:

why would you not have your car by the 9th August:confused::confused::confused: It can;t take that long to fix surely:p:p

Gismo
8th July 2009, 09:41 PM
nae worries Alan, I would be in the states on hols if I could... ;)

Enjoy your hols :thumbs up:Not a holiday :frown:

Craig
8th July 2009, 09:43 PM
Not a holiday :frown:

oh Ok... nuff said... :frown:

Gismo
8th July 2009, 09:44 PM
why would you not have your car by the 9th August:confused::confused::confused: It can;t take that long to fix surely:p:pWell, it's a long story, but, massive heat is generated and according to some folks the top mount intercooler can't cope with it.
The ecu can't adjust enough and makes the car run lean hence the burnt spark plug.
Several "fixes" available, none too cheap and all takes time, so, just working out the best option :sad:

Scottie
8th July 2009, 09:48 PM
Well, it's a long story, but, massive heat is generated and according to some folks the top mount intercooler can't cope with it.
The ecu can't adjust enough and makes the car run lean hence the burnt spark plug.
Several "fixes" available, none too cheap and all takes time, so, just working out the best option :sad:


Look forward to following your story of the fix I'm sure it will all be sorted in the end just fine. Birds were the ones that finally sorted out my problems in my old S which didn't have anything like what you had done but still a bill of over 1.5k to fix that's over the 5 to 6k conversion was not what I wanted but still I was then able to sell the heap of sh1te afterwards.:argh::argh::argh:

badwolf340
20th July 2009, 08:30 PM
Sorry Craig will not be able to make this one now :sad::sad:

Stewart
20th July 2009, 09:50 PM
looking forward to this..................roll on some Sun.

Livi
20th July 2009, 10:03 PM
Craig, place myself down :thumbs up:

Also, anyone passing through Dundee where i could meet up for convoy?? :D

Ally S
21st July 2009, 09:16 PM
Nae bother rob. .

ah so thats his name

AndyP & Lenore
21st July 2009, 09:42 PM
Sorry Craig will not be able to make this one now :sad::sad:

Brian is that the whole clan unable to make it?

Craig's on his holypops so I'm looking after the thread for him.

A.

MINI William
21st July 2009, 09:48 PM
Brian is that the whole clan unable to make it?

Craig's on his holypops so I'm looking after the thread for him.

A.

Yes none of us will be there.Somethin has popped up

AndyP & Lenore
21st July 2009, 11:02 PM
Yes none of us will be there.Somethin has popped

OK. Thanks for letting us know.

A.

Burple
22nd July 2009, 11:03 AM
OK. Thanks for letting us know.

A.

Hey Andy / Craig :p can you add us to the list for this one too please?

Ta muchly! :thumbs up::cool:

AndyP & Lenore
22nd July 2009, 11:10 AM
Hey Andy / Craig :p can you add us to the list for this one too please?

Ta muchly! :thumbs up::cool:

Thats you added.

A.:thumbs up:

Knox18
22nd July 2009, 11:44 AM
i quite fancy coming along in the race car, dont know when my engine is getting stripped but ill keep you posted :thumbs up:

Livi
22nd July 2009, 02:36 PM
Just a note that anyone heading through Dundee or coming from up north can meet me and Ewan (Burple) @ John Clarks for a convoy through.

Time TBA :thumbs up:

Stewart
22nd July 2009, 05:14 PM
i quite fancy coming along in the race car


Oh Bugger well I'm bloody going last agian I'll tell you:D

GCA3N
22nd July 2009, 06:29 PM
Oh Bugger well I'm bloody going last agian I'll tell you:D

Not again

AndyP & Lenore
22nd July 2009, 08:06 PM
i quite fancy coming along in the race car, dont know when my engine is getting stripped but ill keep you posted :thumbs up:

Good man.:thumbs up:

A.:D

Gemma B
22nd July 2009, 09:06 PM
Oh Bugger well I'm bloody going last agian I'll tell you:D

I'm still thinking about coming ;). . . so yeah, I guess you will be last. :rolleyes: :laugh:

Stewart
22nd July 2009, 11:04 PM
You know it makes sense, you can show of those new NMS stickers………:thumbs up: and Yeah I bought a new inside one and outside one after you left:blush:

Burple
24th July 2009, 11:07 AM
Hey guys.. can we take it as read that this one is gonna start at the same time as last year's? 9.30 meet for a 10:00 start?

I only ask cos I'm gonna start a convoy thread from Dundee / NE to Callander..

:thumbs up:

Crombers
26th July 2009, 11:33 AM
i quite fancy coming along in the race car, dont know when my engine is getting stripped but ill keep you posted :thumbs up:

Position booked behind the Knoxmeister, :Whistle: somethin to do with racing lines :thumbs up:

Sheilz
26th July 2009, 12:38 PM
Oh Bugger well I'm bloody going last agian I'll tell you:D

You can tail specy or will it be specy2 ;) :D

Sheilz
26th July 2009, 12:41 PM
Hey guys.. can we take it as read that this one is gonna start at the same time as last year's? 9.30 meet for a 10:00 start?

I only ask cos I'm gonna start a convoy thread from Dundee / NE to Callander..

:thumbs up:

You can add me to your convoy list. That's the b*ggar of living in Aberdeen, always have to get up at the crack of dawn and sometimes before dawn to go anywhere and car's muckit before run even starts :sad: Mind you at least its decent roads going south :thumbs up:

shaunbhoy67
27th July 2009, 08:54 PM
het craig im sorry but i am definetly not going to make the run on the 9th as i have to go to a wedding in ballater on the saturday before run and dont think will be fit to drive to make it to callander :p:lol: gutted gonna miss it but i will get along to another soon

cheers shaun

NorthSea888
27th July 2009, 09:05 PM
Hi Craig can you please add me as well but will confirm if not back to work on the 6th:argh:

Cheers:confused:

Craig
27th July 2009, 09:17 PM
het craig im sorry but i am definetly not going to make the run on the 9th as i have to go to a wedding in ballater on the saturday before run and dont think will be fit to drive to make it to callander :p:lol: gutted gonna miss it but i will get along to another soon

cheers shaun

No Worries Shaun. ;)


Hi Craig can you please add me as well but will confirm if not back to work on the 6th:argh:

Cheers:confused:


thats you added - just let me know when your a definate. :thumbs up:

baptie
30th July 2009, 12:57 PM
Yet to make a run, this one would have been perfect but going to IMM in Birmingham

Mini Ecosse
31st July 2009, 09:46 PM
Craig, are you updating run notes for this year?

The following extract for last years notes no longer applies:-

**Caution – HUGE ramp and roadworks, uneven unsurfaced road which had sweary
words coming out of me on the recce..!!!!** (63.6m)

Stephen

Craig
2nd August 2009, 09:58 AM
Craig, are you updating run notes for this year?

The following extract for last years notes no longer applies:-

**Caution – HUGE ramp and roadworks, uneven unsurfaced road which had sweary
words coming out of me on the recce..!!!!** (63.6m)

Stephen



thanks Stephen, Yeash will update them. Just been mega busy, got a christening today, so hopefully get them amended and updated tomorrow. :thumbs up:

Fingers crossed for good weather next Sunday :thumbs up::thumbs up:

minimad
2nd August 2009, 06:15 PM
hi craig put me down as a DEFINITE it will be good to get back into the swing of things:thumbs up:

ELFMAN
3rd August 2009, 08:54 AM
Welcome back Tony!!!! Check new thread for Mini MINI convoy to Callander from Hamilton.

Craig
3rd August 2009, 01:04 PM
Update on Page 1.

I hope to have the notes up shortly, although the route isn't changing from last year.. ;)

GCA3N
3rd August 2009, 04:01 PM
Craig, just looked at the ferry times and I cannot get to calander till 11ish thought on an idea I am only and hour and a half from Oban. I see your meeting there for lunch I would be there for 11.30 when do you expect to be there and where exactly in Oban will you stop. Hope that is ok with you.

Craig
3rd August 2009, 05:29 PM
Craig, just looked at the ferry times and I cannot get to calander till 11ish thought on an idea I am only and hour and a half from Oban. I see your meeting there for lunch I would be there for 11.30 when do you expect to be there and where exactly in Oban will you stop. Hope that is ok with you.

No probs meeting us in Oban Greig. :thumbs up:

We will be stopping at the Corran Halls car park and aim to be there about 12:00/12:30hrs ;)

Stewart
3rd August 2009, 06:44 PM
You cant miss it mate its on the right coming down the hill into Oban.

GCA3N
3rd August 2009, 07:23 PM
You cant miss it mate its on the right coming down the hill into Oban.

Thanks mate

Ivano
3rd August 2009, 10:44 PM
I am really looking forward to this. My first Run apart from a Knockhill attendance which i suppose isn't really a run. I have even persuaded my new girlfriend Carol to come along so it's all good :thumbs up:

Craig
3rd August 2009, 11:41 PM
I am really looking forward to this. My first Run apart from a Knockhill attendance which i suppose isn't really a run. I have even persuaded my new girlfriend Carol to come along so it's all good :thumbs up:

Be great to see you again Ivan. :thumbs up:

ELFMAN
4th August 2009, 08:55 AM
I have even persuaded my new girlfriend Carol to come along so it's all good :thumbs up:

Anybody got any OLD girlfriends handy? :Whistle: :smilewinkgrin::hand:
Just thought I'd ask... :argh:

Crombers
4th August 2009, 10:47 AM
Anybody got any OLD girlfriends handy? :Whistle: :smilewinkgrin::hand:
Just thought I'd ask... :argh:

Em ........... none that I would subject you to mate :shut up:

Crombers
4th August 2009, 10:52 AM
We will be stopping at the Corran Halls car park

I take it is eat as you please i.e. bring your own or go fetch your own :yes nod:

ELFMAN
4th August 2009, 10:54 AM
Em ........... none that I would subject you to mate :shut up:

Hadn't thought that one through Crombers :argh: :off topic:

Burple
4th August 2009, 10:59 AM
Em ........... none that I would subject you to mate :shut up:

Likewise!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::nag: ;)

Craig
4th August 2009, 11:40 AM
I take it is eat as you please i.e. bring your own or go fetch your own :yes nod:

Yes sir. Bring a wee packed lunch or get something from the many establishments in oban :-)

ELFMAN
4th August 2009, 02:26 PM
I thoroughly recommend 'Sandra MacTavish's Massage Emporium and Chip Shop'.
...Just don't ask for 'Salt & Vinegar'. These special pills aren't working.

AndyP & Lenore
4th August 2009, 11:28 PM
DOWNLOAD RUN NOTES HERE (http://www.newminiscotland.co.uk/run_notes/2009/argyll_and_bute_2009.pdf)

Craig
4th August 2009, 11:28 PM
Thanks Andy for putting up the notes and finding last years for me... :blush::thumbs up:

AndyP & Lenore
4th August 2009, 11:44 PM
Thanks Andy for putting up the notes and finding last years for me... :blush::thumbs up:

Nae bother. But, have u spotted the typo? It's in last years too. :blush:

Craig
4th August 2009, 11:45 PM
Nae bother. But, have u spotted the typo? It's in last years too. :blush:

is it the name of the run - I did change it.... :confused:

AndyP & Lenore
4th August 2009, 11:47 PM
Anybody got any OLD girlfriends handy? :Whistle: :smilewinkgrin::hand:
Just thought I'd ask... :argh:

Thank you Ewan for a good laugh. Cheered me up after a rubbish day in work.:laugh:

A.:D

AndyP & Lenore
4th August 2009, 11:48 PM
is it the name of the run - I did change it.... :confused:

It is the name of the run.:Whistle:

A.

Craig
4th August 2009, 11:50 PM
It is the name of the run.:Whistle:

A.

ach, nae worries - bigger things to worry about... :clap::lol:

GCA3N
4th August 2009, 11:54 PM
I dont thunk yew shood b so flippant abowt this craig it is imptrtant that yew post massages corektly ....tut tit

Delboy
5th August 2009, 09:20 AM
Craig,

I am hoping to join you all on this run but I am unable to leave Glasgow until about 10am due to family commitments so was hoping to do a "Greig" and meet you in Oban, if that is ok?

There is a chance I could catch you up on route, probably after the Green Wellie stop when you take the single-track detour and I don't, but I'll certainly make Oban for lunchtime.

Cheers,
Del

Craig
5th August 2009, 09:50 AM
Craig,

I am hoping to join you all on this run but I am unable to leave Glasgow until about 10am due to family commitments so was hoping to do a "Greig" and meet you in Oban, if that is ok?

There is a chance I could catch you up on route, probably after the Green Wellie stop when you take the single-track detour and I don't, but I'll certainly make Oban for lunchtime.

Cheers,
Del

No probs Del. Thats fine with me. Just take a note of my mobile number and let of know on sunday where you are meeting us just so i know. :-)

Stewart
5th August 2009, 09:53 AM
Fingers crossed its like today.......

GCA3N
5th August 2009, 09:57 AM
Craig,

I am hoping to join you all on this run but I am unable to leave Glasgow until about 10am due to family commitments so was hoping to do a "Greig" and meet you in Oban, if that is ok?

There is a chance I could catch you up on route, probably after the Green Wellie stop when you take the single-track detour and I don't, but I'll certainly make Oban for lunchtime.

Cheers,
Del

nice one del will let you know when I get to Oban I should be there for 11.30. Should be easy to spot for everyone we will be the really good looking cars in the best colour:Whistle::lol:

Knox18
5th August 2009, 10:00 AM
Hi guys,

will have to pull out this one, nothing to do with the mini, erm i decided like 2 days ago that im going to dubai today :D

have fun, look forward to seeing some pics! :thumbs up:

Delboy
5th August 2009, 10:10 AM
No probs Del. Thats fine with me. Just take a note of my mobile number and let of know on sunday where you are meeting us just so i know. :-)

Thanks Craig :thumbs up:. Let's just say it will be Oban to avoid any confusion. Looking forward to it.


nice one del will let you know when I get to Oban I should be there for 11.30. Should be easy to spot for everyone we will be the really good looking cars in the best colour:Whistle::lol:

Yes, I'm pretty sure they'll spot us :D. See you there.

Ivano
7th August 2009, 10:25 PM
Car is all cleaned and ready for Sunday... I am out cycling most of tomorrow so wasn't going to get a chance to clean so did it this afternoon and part of this this evening..

Looking forward to this one... :D:D

Craig
7th August 2009, 10:27 PM
Well Done Ivan.

Looking forward to seeing you and the car, not seen your for YEARS... :thud::lol:

Crombers
8th August 2009, 09:11 AM
I have it in good authority (Karen :D) that the Kingston Bridge will be closed tonight from 9pm to 9am Sunday morning (new motorway bridge being put into place) for anyone coming from the Southside of Glasgow on their way up to Callander

Stewart
8th August 2009, 02:34 PM
Just going to join at M-Way at Rutherglen but heading over there tonight, so Cheers for that:thumbs up:I'll head into town giving the Bridge a miss.


And Bollocks its raining and cant wash the car, and the roof was getting a polished today as well to get rid of a wee light scratch.......:argh: so its going on the run dirty :D

Scottie
8th August 2009, 04:25 PM
my cars all washed and waxed it's now tucked away in the garage ready for tomorrow.


Anyone else doing a picnic? or are you all heading into Oban for something to eat.????

Oh and Craig are you bringing copies of the run notes.:smilewinkgrin:

Bumble
8th August 2009, 04:33 PM
planning just to get somethere there fi :)

Craig
8th August 2009, 04:45 PM
We are having a picnic :thumbs up:

I will bring about 10 sets of run notes :yes nod:

Stewart
8th August 2009, 04:57 PM
my cars all washed and waxed it's now tucked away in the garage ready for tomorrow.

:ragin:

Can you get arrested for a jetwash going at 6am……..:D the black roof is manky

Bumble
8th August 2009, 06:47 PM
Bumble is all washed and ready to go

Mini Ecosse
8th August 2009, 07:52 PM
Anyone else doing a picnic? or are you all heading into Oban for something to eat.????



That depends on the size of your picnic.
Have you enough to feed us all?:bigwave:

Stephen

Mini Ecosse
8th August 2009, 07:53 PM
We are having a picnic :thumbs up:

I will bring about 10 sets of run notes :yes nod:

I also printed two sets of extra notes yesterday!

Craig
8th August 2009, 08:16 PM
I also printed two sets of extra notes yesterday!

thanks Stephen...

Just about to go out and give the car a wee wash... :rolleyes::thumbs up:

HiddenHOBO
8th August 2009, 08:31 PM
wud love to have gone but discs and pads still havent turned up...

Mini Ecosse
8th August 2009, 08:48 PM
thanks Stephen...

Just about to go out and give the car a wee wash... :rolleyes::thumbs up:

Our mini not very clean:frown::frown:, to busy on other projects!

Mind and ask me about a badge for your mini tomorrow :thumbs up:

Craig
8th August 2009, 10:33 PM
Our mini not very clean:frown::frown:, to busy on other projects!

Mind and ask me about a badge for your mini tomorrow :thumbs up:

Will do.. :yes nod::thumbs up:

GCA3N
8th August 2009, 11:50 PM
HAy craig just wanting to check the meeting place in Oban tomorrow. Cheer mate.

Mini Ecosse
9th August 2009, 07:27 AM
HAy craig just wanting to check the meeting place in Oban tomorrow. Cheer mate.

Corran Halls car park.

Easy to find.

At first roundabout at bottom of hill as you enter Oban turn right down to esplanade. Round roundabout and half way back up to the first roundabout turn right into Corran Halls carpark.
Hope that makes sense!

You will see the car park as you enter the first roundabout, only about 200 yds between roundabouts.

Stephen

Mini Ecosse
9th August 2009, 07:28 AM
Leaving shortly.

Oban weather - dry and sunny :thumbs up:

Stewart
9th August 2009, 07:46 AM
Yeah Oban looks clear in the BBc weather and I mean oban for some reason:thumbs up: at 12....hope its right.

a wee trip for petrol then I'm off.:blush:

Craig
9th August 2009, 08:31 AM
Ok guys, see you all soon. :thumbs up::thumbs up:

'Mon the Weather...! :clap::clap::cool:

GCA3N
9th August 2009, 05:46 PM
Just got back to the boat after a Gr8 run albeit cut short on both sides. Gr8 to see the usual suspects and all the newbies, sorry I could not have had the whole day, I will plan it better and crash at someones next time. Anyway big thanks to craig for organising a smashing day hope all you guys/ gals got home safely. Sorry no pics, so disorganised you'd think I had moved house two days ago!

ELFMAN
9th August 2009, 07:43 PM
Thanks to Craig and Jude for another 'Magical Semi-Mystery Tour' of Argyll. Sorry I wasn't feeling exactly up to par today - but I felt a great deal better as the day went on - thanks to great roads, the usual great company (all the first-timers too), and last but not least, Nurofen.

Apologies for not taking the exhaust Craig, it's your own fault, I enjoyed the car so much today that I don't want to change anything!

Hope you all got home safely - see you on the 'Fife Fryer', as I'm on holiday for the Borders Run. Night Night, sleep tight etc. Right, where's me 'After Sun' cream?

minimad
9th August 2009, 07:44 PM
just back from oban:smilewinkgrin:thanks again craig for another top notch run sorry i had to depart early:blush::thumbs up:bring on the borders:bigwave:

Mini Ecosse
9th August 2009, 08:06 PM
Thanks Craig for a great day out.
Also good to meet some new folks as well as the usual suspects:thumbs up:

Scottie
9th August 2009, 08:15 PM
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9th August 2009, 08:17 PM
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Scottie
9th August 2009, 08:31 PM
Why is it?! that the sun always shines in Oban?? It did it again this year.:cool:

Craig&Jude great run as always my fav run it was a pleasure to join yourselves, Stephen & Alison and Alan & Karen for the picnic, sorry if some of the topics were a bit off:blush: dog talk:frown: sorry.

Yeah sure the roads were busy --- some nutters either won't reverse to let us past or they insist in not going one smidge over 30 in a 60:sad: but you know what didn't matter one bit to me I enjoy the lazy style driving and just eased my bum into the drivers seat relaxed and enjoyed the whole day:smilewinkgrin:.

Anyway we had a wee chance to open things up on the road home:smilewinkgrin: bet you were shocked just how quick my wee coop is:shut up: ok ok I know I know:argh: but one can dream:p

where did you go anyway the motorway home:confused: is that quicker than going through the town. Looked for you at Granada!!

Nice to speak with some of the newbies.

Finally SHIELZ DON'T DO IT KEEP THE BUM BLACK.

See you all in the Chip Shop run:thumbs up:

Bumble
9th August 2009, 08:32 PM
:thumbs up: another fabbie run, thanks craig & jude :thumbs up: weather gods were good to us, great roads, company and banter as usual. Lorna had fun too so you never know I may be able to get her back on another run :rolleyes:

AndyP & Lenore
9th August 2009, 08:32 PM
Fantastic run had by the Poole's, and we both even managed to stay awake all the way home.

Thanks again to Craig for organising a great run.

The big surprise of the day.... who'd have thought Allan would be able to speak...http://www.criticalgamers.com/archives/pictures/LittleGerman.7.19.06.jpg

A.:laugh:

Scottie
9th August 2009, 08:38 PM
I would hope so he was stationed at Dulmen (Germany) for a good few years

Mini Ecosse
9th August 2009, 08:42 PM
Why is it?! that the sun always shines in Oban?? It did it again this year.:cool:

The sun always shines on the righteous :D

Craig
9th August 2009, 08:43 PM
thanks to all for coming. :thumbs up: and for all the kind comments.:blush:

Please accept my apologies if I came across as a bear with a sore arse, but things in others parts of our lives are pretty sh*t at the moment and I am finding to quite hard to cope. :argh: It was good to have a day out with likeminded friends tho, so thanks for putting up with me.. :rolleyes::thumbs up:

The roads were the busiest they have ever been, but thats prob down to the credit crunch (people staying home) and the strong euro (more visitors), it kinda bugged me all day, but then again, thats prob more to do with above... ;)

Fi - yeah, we went the motorway and I think we were ahead of you at Granada - looked out for you also.. :yes nod: Yeah, your wee motor fairly licks along.. :clap:

Good to see everyone today and welcome to Enrique and Paula. :clap: Hope you are feeling a bit better after getting home Paula :yes nod:

Ivano
9th August 2009, 08:44 PM
Craig another Big Thank You for such a great day.. Myself and Carol loved every minute of it.

We could be hooked :D:D

Was great to get such a warm welcome from everyone on our first run. Sorry to those who i didn't get to speak too. I don't know where the time went but it was FUN FUN FUN!!!

Cheers again :thumbs up::thumbs up:

Scottie
9th August 2009, 08:48 PM
The sun always shines on the righteous :D

I did have a wee chuckle to myself when typing that cause I just knew what you were going to say but it is true it seems the sun always shines there got to say great part of the world you stay in. Now next year are we getting to try out that decking.;);) of yours.

Mini Ecosse
9th August 2009, 08:49 PM
Crackin piccies Alan:thumbs up:

Livi
9th August 2009, 08:50 PM
Had a fantastic day the day (might not look like it) but we were absolutly tired! :yawn:

Good to meet up with a few folks and have a wee chat, but the scenery and views were lovely, and as Fi says, the absolute twat in the land rover who couldn't even reverse under 100 yards to allow 4-6 minis past :Whistle:

Sun Sun Sun until we got home :sad:

will be on the next run in 3 weeks! :thumbs up:

Mini Ecosse
9th August 2009, 08:53 PM
I did have a wee chuckle to myself when typing that cause I just knew what you were going to say but it is true it seems the sun always shines there got to say great part of the world you stay in. Now next year are we getting to try out that decking.;);) of yours.

You are always welcome to try out the decking, just make sure the dogs are left at home:laugh::laugh:

Delboy
9th August 2009, 09:37 PM
Thanks to Craig and all for a great day :thumbs up:. I thoroughly enjoyed my first run (as did my son Michael!) and it was great to finally meet some of you, as well see your cars in the metal :D.

Look forward to seeing you on another run soon.

AndyP & Lenore
9th August 2009, 10:07 PM
Hey everyone, I'm new to this website because I saw your mini run today, I seen you all parked in Oban, I have a Mini Cooper Clubman, Red and Black, I saw this site name on a lot of your cars, I had a quick look at some of the cars and my fave was the Laser Blue Mini Cooper S Clubman!

- Mystery Man

Hi

Sorry, didn't see you, but :welcome:.:thumbs up:

Craig
9th August 2009, 10:11 PM
Hey everyone, I'm new to this website because I saw your mini run today, I seen you all parked in Oban, I have a Mini Cooper Clubman, Red and Black, I saw this site name on a lot of your cars, I had a quick look at some of the cars and my fave was the Laser Blue Mini Cooper S Clubman!

- Mystery Man

Glad to have you onboard.... Do you know Delboy . :Whistle:;):thumbs up:

a11y_m
9th August 2009, 10:30 PM
Hi folks, I was Ally S's passenger today and - having just introduced myself (http://www.newminiscotland.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=216362#post216362) - thought I'd stick up some of my photos. Great run today, absolutely fab organisation so a big thumbs up to the organisers for that.

LINK TO ALBUM - ALL 30 PICS (http://www.flickr.com/photos/a11y_m/sets/72157621991279016/)

And just a selection of my favourites...

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Tut tut, peace signs? ;)
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I've blanked out the reg plates (apart from Ally S's) - if anyone wants a pic with their plate in PM me with your email addy.

Cheers
Ally M

Stewart
9th August 2009, 10:31 PM
A few pic's of the day....

Cheers for another great day out and about.:thumbs up:

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Scottie
9th August 2009, 10:37 PM
great pics:thumbs up: thinking my car looks well smart now :blush:

no need to srub me number I'm not bothered.:thumbs up::thumbs up:

AndyP & Lenore
9th August 2009, 10:40 PM
Great pics.:thumbs up:

Glad you enjoyed the day.:D

illegalhunter
10th August 2009, 12:37 AM
Looks like fun peps & sun shine . Win ,Win

Crombers
10th August 2009, 08:22 AM
Cheers Craig for organising another A&B day oot :thumbs up:

Still trying to calm Karen down, think she has officailly picked up Lagunad!ckitis :eek:

Jeez the roads were busy & we agreed that the credit crunch is probably to blame but some of the drivers we encountered had either no brain or were just taking the p!sh :frown:

iain cooper
10th August 2009, 09:30 AM
seen you guys yesterday between Inveraray and Arrochar early afternoon..........a fantastic sight.

we were in our new landrover freelander heading to Inveraray, lovely day for a run and lovely bar meal in the George Hotel !!

Colin
10th August 2009, 10:21 AM
Thanks Craig and Jude for another fantastic run. :thumbs up: Got in late last night so just posting up just now. Weather was brill (how do you do it :confused:) Traffic was a pain but didn't spoil the day at all. Good to see some new faces, sorry if I didn't get to speak to you, time just seems to fly by. See yous all on the next one.

Ally S
10th August 2009, 12:36 PM
That was a great run, got to meet some more faces. I still dont know what AndyP looks like though!

I had to do a bit of catching up after the Green Welly stop as I was chatting to another Mini owner (not part of the group run). It turned out his mum was the previous owner to my Mini! I recognised the number plate from my v5. Was interesting trying to catchup.

Stewart
10th August 2009, 01:27 PM
seen you guys yesterday between Inveraray and Arrochar early afternoon..........a fantastic sight.

we were in our new landrover freelander heading to Inveraray, lovely day for a run and lovely bar meal in the George Hotel !!


Just as long as you were not that Muppet in the Landrover we had to pass on that single track road that was a :ragin:ick......

Only joking mate, but the other Landrover guy was a brain donor………. Ally and Scottie can back me up there...

iain cooper
10th August 2009, 02:49 PM
no I'm sure it wasn't me ( this time !! ) I was going in the opposite direction from the line of Minis.

when you drive a Landrover you tend to relax too much and take in your surroundings, especially up in Inveraray, but I'm always aware of who's behind me and try not to hold anyone up.

Iain

ps I would pull in and let you all pass..................honest

Stewart
10th August 2009, 06:20 PM
This guy was face on, on the single track road......:argh:

Would he reverse back a few yards………….Nope……..
Mind you he’d already seen about fifteen Minis before us……..:D


So the Mini's look impressive, I always think how long does it take for the other people to think “Hold on that’s a **** load of Mini’s” as we pass.

a11y_m
10th August 2009, 09:37 PM
This guy was face on, on the single track road......:argh:

Would he reverse back a few yards………….Nope……..
Mind you he’d already seen about fifteen Minis before us……..:D


So the Mini's look impressive, I always think how long does it take for the other people to think “Hold on that’s a **** load of Mini’s” as we pass.

Yeah, that guy was an arse. I was with Ally S in the lead MINI at the point we met that Landrover. It's a 4x4 FFS, put a couple of your wheels actually OFF the tarmac! He could also have reversed about 50metres back into a passing place but was too selfish to do that :rolleyes:

And yeah, I think that too although I reckon some folk are too thick to even notice at times...

Scottie
10th August 2009, 09:44 PM
here it is. They are no looking happy with us are they:Whistle:

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Livi
10th August 2009, 09:49 PM
“Hold on that’s a **** load of Mini’s” as we pass.

Actually, what me and Susan were laughing at was the people at the junction waiting to get out as the first mini past and followed by another 19! lol :D

D3 JDA
10th August 2009, 10:39 PM
Like to thank craig for another great run and it was good to see everone again + a few new faces as well.The weather was very good and the roads were amazing lets hope for the same weather in 3 weeks time at the borders run.David & Fiona:thumbs up::clap::bigwave:

a11y_m
11th August 2009, 08:50 AM
Oh, I take it back: the Freelander driver DID manage to get his tyres off the tarmac, but only just...

stoney
11th August 2009, 05:45 PM
well guys look like you had a brill time see you in a few weeks if you are on the borders run

some cracking photos there as well

iain cooper
13th August 2009, 05:31 PM
definitely not me ( this time )

Iain

Sheilz
14th August 2009, 12:40 AM
Well that's Dougall just home from his first run. He'd a fab time and so did we. Many thanks Craig, hope whatever has been troubling you is sorting itself out. :thumbs up:

Here's some pics we took on the run and one of Dougall's wee friend he met on the Applecross road. "Danboyne" (I think I got the name right) posted on the site a week or so ago saying he would be travelling from Luxembourg to the Highlands. Sadly no one responded to him which made him think there was no mini scene in Scotland. Needless to say he was delighted to know that the opposite is true. He had spotted a fair puckle minis nipping through the windy roads at the tail end of August last year so we figured that must have been the Borders Run. Was pretty cool though meeting another clubman on the Pass.

Also saw two different groups of classic minis winding their way through the Highlands. LOL second group had trailers bigger than the cars.

Dougall got home without getting any stone chips. I'm keeping stoomb about the state of one of his back shoes :blush: :sad: :eek:

Sheilz
14th August 2009, 12:57 AM
Dougall with his wee pal.

View from the top of the pass

Just had to include one of the boat. Its called the 'Rose Maree'. It was my dad's and took us over the loch in the first leg of our journey to school. It never ever broke down :sad: which was a bummer since school meant being away for at least a couple of weeks at a time :ragin:

Stewart
14th August 2009, 11:53 AM
Glad Dougall had a good time, I take it you actually got into Applecross as opposed to our passing it last time on the TWR. Also good that you put the guy right about the mini’s and the fact we go runs all the time. He’d have got a shock if the TWR crew had all turned up on top of the pass like we did.

Well done on the stone chips, washed the car yesterday and have a few more, I don’t mind so much but I got a cracker of a chip on my side drivers window:argh:..but not worth getting it fixed its only two small marks top corner.

So were did you end up in the end all the way back up to Durness?

Sheilz
14th August 2009, 12:25 PM
Glad Dougall had a good time, I take it you actually got into Applecross as opposed to our passing it last time on the TWR. Also good that you put the guy right about the mini’s and the fact we go runs all the time. He’d have got a shock if the TWR crew had all turned up on top of the pass like we did.

Well done on the stone chips, washed the car yesterday and have a few more, I don’t mind so much but I got a cracker of a chip on my side drivers window:argh:..but not worth getting it fixed its only two small marks top corner.

So were did you end up in the end all the way back up to Durness?


Didn't get as far as Durness. We moved from Arrochar to Lochcarron and used it as a base to explore Wester Ross and Skye (bits of). Weather wasn't all that great so spent a lot of time eating and hiding from the rain. Didnt particularly want to share the drive with a soggy tent so just stayed put. We did get into Applecross. Weather was horrid for a start but it cleared up into a beautiful afternoon so we were able to enjoy the breathtaking scenery. Sometimes when it rains in the highlands the rain seems to get trapped in the mountains and can take forever, or so it seems, to clear up. Bonus was the midges didnt seem to like the rain either though when they were out they made a bee-line for Munro. Shame he came home looking like a survivor of the plague. It was his first trip to the highlands since he was just a loon and his first time to Skye. You could just hear the midges "Oooo, fresh meat" ;):bigwave:


Shame about the chips on your car though its pretty good to escape with only one or two. Had a couple of encounters with some 4x4s that seemed determined to push Dougall over embankments so that they could thunder past :ragin: Fortunately those kind of numpties are in the minority.

Dalboyne
20th August 2009, 05:26 PM
Thanks Sheilz!

It was also great meeting you on the Applecross road - great adventure! We did also see a number of MINIs around, several in Stornoway and down the south of Harris, but yours was the only other Clubman! Will post up some photos when we have a chance to go through them all.........

Cheers!

Ian

PS Forgot to mention - the Clubman is Babar, and it's Sue's MINI. Mine's a Chili Red R57 Cooper cabrio called Celeste..... And we did 4500km in our 3 weeks of holiday, including getting to and from Scotland, via the DFDS ferry (Amsterdam-Newcastle).